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Today's Topics:

   1. Upgrade suggestions please. (G.W. Haywood)
   2. Re: Upgrade suggestions please. (Antony Stone)
   3. Re: Upgrade suggestions please. (Antony Stone)


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Message: 1
Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2018 15:34:03 +0100 (BST)
From: "G.W. Haywood" <ici...@jubileegroup.co.uk>
To: icinga-users@lists.icinga.org
Subject: [icinga-users] Upgrade suggestions please.
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Hi there,

First post to this list.

I've been a happy user of nagios3 + nagiosgraph for a very long time;
I've written the odd plugin and modified a few to fix/extend them.

All of this has been running on Debian.

Now I'm upgrading servers from Debian 'jessie' to 'stretch', and a lot
has changed.  To begin with Nagios has been replaced by Icinga, and the
nagiosgraph package seems to have disappeared from the distribution.

So I've hacked my existing setup to run Icinga with the old Nagiosgraph
installation and it's mostly working but there are some niggles.

The main niggle is that mouseovers for the graphs (both produced by
Nagiosgraph) don't work any more, and I'm finding that I really miss
the feature when scrolling through long lists of services.  The issue
seems to be with Nagiosgraph, not Icinga (see link below).

Questions:

(1) Looking at messages from other people going though the same pains,
it looks like it might be better to start again than carry on tweaking
what is effectively an out of date system (yeah, I know, it's Debian),
so, given that I should have been happy to carry on using the setup
that I had before the upgrade to 'stretch', would anyone like to
comment on a combination of packages which might suit me?  I'm in the
lots-of-services-on-less-than-a-hundred-servers camp if that matters.

(2) If I could find some quick way of getting nagiosgraph's mouseovers
to work with Icinga 1.13.4 (which is what came with the Debian upgrade)
or similar I'd willingly settle for that, but I've searched extensively
for a quick answer and come up with nothing.  The issue seems to be the
quoting of javascript code, it plays with nagios3 but not with Icinga.

I've used several mailing list search tools on the Icinga users list
and found no hits for 'onmouseover'.  Please don't say I didn't try
the archives first if I just need better search tools. :)

This link:

https://monitoring-portal.org/woltlab/index.php?thread/36001-action-url-for-inline-graph-with-naemon-thruk-nagiosgraph-not-working/

explains what I think might be a fix for the problem with a different
package (not Icinga).  As I've only known it for a day I don't know if
a fix of this nature is even possible with Icinga.  If anyone here has
trodden this path before I'd be very pleased to hear from them.

-- 

73,
Ged.


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Message: 2
Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2018 16:57:14 +0200
From: Antony Stone <antony.st...@icinga.open.source.it>
To: "Icinga User's Corner" <icinga-users@lists.icinga.org>
Subject: Re: [icinga-users] Upgrade suggestions please.
Message-ID: <201808241657.14717.antony.st...@icinga.open.source.it>
Content-Type: Text/Plain;  charset="iso-8859-1"

On Friday 24 August 2018 at 16:34:03, G.W. Haywood wrote:

> Hi there,
> 
> First post to this list.
> 
> I've been a happy user of nagios3 + nagiosgraph for a very long time;
> I've written the odd plugin and modified a few to fix/extend them.
> 
> All of this has been running on Debian.
> 
> Now I'm upgrading servers from Debian 'jessie' to 'stretch', and a lot
> has changed.  To begin with Nagios has been replaced by Icinga, and the
> nagiosgraph package seems to have disappeared from the distribution.
> 
> So I've hacked my existing setup to run Icinga with the old Nagiosgraph
> installation and it's mostly working but there are some niggles.
> 
> The main niggle is that mouseovers for the graphs (both produced by
> Nagiosgraph) don't work any more, and I'm finding that I really miss
> the feature when scrolling through long lists of services.  The issue
> seems to be with Nagiosgraph, not Icinga (see link below).
> 
> Questions:
> 
> (1) Looking at messages from other people going though the same pains,
> it looks like it might be better to start again than carry on tweaking
> what is effectively an out of date system (yeah, I know, it's Debian),
> so, given that I should have been happy to carry on using the setup
> that I had before the upgrade to 'stretch', would anyone like to
> comment on a combination of packages which might suit me?  I'm in the
> lots-of-services-on-less-than-a-hundred-servers camp if that matters.
> 
> (2) If I could find some quick way of getting nagiosgraph's mouseovers
> to work with Icinga 1.13.4 (which is what came with the Debian upgrade)

Sorry - can you verify that?  You are really using Icinga version 1 on Debian 
Stretch??

> or similar I'd willingly settle for that, but I've searched extensively
> for a quick answer and come up with nothing.  The issue seems to be the
> quoting of javascript code, it plays with nagios3 but not with Icinga.
> 
> I've used several mailing list search tools on the Icinga users list
> and found no hits for 'onmouseover'.  Please don't say I didn't try
> the archives first if I just need better search tools. :)
> 
> This link:
> 
> https://monitoring-portal.org/woltlab/index.php?thread/36001-action-url-for
> -inline-graph-with-naemon-thruk-nagiosgraph-not-working/
> 
> explains what I think might be a fix for the problem with a different
> package (not Icinga).  As I've only known it for a day I don't know if
> a fix of this nature is even possible with Icinga.  If anyone here has
> trodden this path before I'd be very pleased to hear from them.


Antony.

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Message: 3
Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2018 17:05:24 +0200
From: Antony Stone <antony.st...@icinga.open.source.it>
To: "Icinga User's Corner" <icinga-users@lists.icinga.org>
Subject: Re: [icinga-users] Upgrade suggestions please.
Message-ID: <201808241705.24893.antony.st...@icinga.open.source.it>
Content-Type: Text/Plain;  charset="iso-8859-1"

On Friday 24 August 2018 at 16:57:14, Antony Stone wrote:

> On Friday 24 August 2018 at 16:34:03, G.W. Haywood wrote:
> > Hi there,
> > 
> > First post to this list.
> > 
> > I've been a happy user of nagios3 + nagiosgraph for a very long time;
> > I've written the odd plugin and modified a few to fix/extend them.
> > 
> > All of this has been running on Debian.
> > 
> > Now I'm upgrading servers from Debian 'jessie' to 'stretch', and a lot
> > has changed.  To begin with Nagios has been replaced by Icinga, and the
> > nagiosgraph package seems to have disappeared from the distribution.
> > 
> > So I've hacked my existing setup to run Icinga with the old Nagiosgraph
> > installation and it's mostly working but there are some niggles.
> > 
> > The main niggle is that mouseovers for the graphs (both produced by
> > Nagiosgraph) don't work any more, and I'm finding that I really miss
> > the feature when scrolling through long lists of services.  The issue
> > seems to be with Nagiosgraph, not Icinga (see link below).
> > 
> > Questions:
> > 
> > (1) Looking at messages from other people going though the same pains,
> > it looks like it might be better to start again than carry on tweaking
> > what is effectively an out of date system (yeah, I know, it's Debian),
> > so, given that I should have been happy to carry on using the setup
> > that I had before the upgrade to 'stretch', would anyone like to
> > comment on a combination of packages which might suit me?  I'm in the
> > lots-of-services-on-less-than-a-hundred-servers camp if that matters.
> > 
> > (2) If I could find some quick way of getting nagiosgraph's mouseovers
> > to work with Icinga 1.13.4 (which is what came with the Debian upgrade)
> 
> Sorry - can you verify that?  You are really using Icinga version 1 on
> Debian Stretch??

Sorry - I could have checked for myself before asking this.

https://packages.debian.org/search?keywords=icinga

confirms you can still get Icinga1 for Debian Stretch.

I think you should definitely upgrade to
https://packages.debian.org/search?keywords=icinga2
as you won't get much support into the future for Icinga1 any more.

Note that the configuration files have changed quite a bit between Icinga1 
(which was essentially Nagios-compatible) and Icinga2, so the upgrade will 
require some effort and adjustment - something i would only recommend by 
setting up a development / staging server to perform the upgrade on, while 
your production server continues running Icinga1 and providing your monitoring 
function.

https://www.icinga.com/docs/icinga2/latest/doc/23-migrating-from-icinga-1x/ 
can help with the migration process.

> > or similar I'd willingly settle for that, but I've searched extensively
> > for a quick answer and come up with nothing.  The issue seems to be the
> > quoting of javascript code, it plays with nagios3 but not with Icinga.
> > 
> > I've used several mailing list search tools on the Icinga users list
> > and found no hits for 'onmouseover'.  Please don't say I didn't try
> > the archives first if I just need better search tools. :)
> > 
> > This link:
> > 
> > https://monitoring-portal.org/woltlab/index.php?thread/36001-action-url-f
> > or -inline-graph-with-naemon-thruk-nagiosgraph-not-working/
> > 
> > explains what I think might be a fix for the problem with a different
> > package (not Icinga).  As I've only known it for a day I don't know if
> > a fix of this nature is even possible with Icinga.  If anyone here has
> > trodden this path before I'd be very pleased to hear from them.
> 
> Antony.

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