You both hit ,the nail on the head .... Scott
On Mon, May 11, 2020 at 2:29 PM Clark Morris <cfmt...@uniserve.com> wrote: > [Default] On 11 May 2020 10:57:42 -0700, in bit.listserv.ibm-main > poodles...@sbcglobal.net (Dan at Poodles) wrote: > > In addition to documentation is there a good set of test data and is > it kept current? One of my biggest problems in doing applications > upgrade was figuring out how to test the dang thing with 20 sets of > files that had to match. > > Clark Morris > >From 46 years of experience, these problems can be mostly traced to > little, if any, documentation. Is there correct system documentation? Is > there correct file/data base documentation? Is there correct operational > documentation? Is there correct program documentation? Are the programs > documented externally (this is what this program does) and internally > (explaining in excruciating detail every action taken). Have standards > been established and strictly followed? > > > >Yea, I know all of this is a pain in the a$$, but who's going to support > the code should the author(s) get run over by a bus? Detailed internal > program documentation is also a great tool to review the author's logic and > assumptions. It forces programmers and managers to re-think and re-verify > everything. > > > >This lack of documentation can always, always, be traced to pi$$ poor > management. Just because a project is completed in record time and under > budget does not mean the project is a success. More likely than not, the > poor souls tasked with supporting these systems are left with a nightmare. > They pick up the crap they inherited and simply add more. What the hell, > that was good enough before. > > > >Quick and dirty one-time shots should never be placed into production. > Yet, I've seen this occur way too often. > > > >Whatever programming languages are used to write code is completely > irrelevant. It's all about the documentation. > > > >-----Original Message----- > >From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On > Behalf Of scott Ford > >Sent: Monday, May 11, 2020 11:04 AM > >To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > >Subject: Re: OT: But COBOL is the problem? > > > >Seymour, > > > >Yes sir no balance between Money and quality of life per se. I feel > computer languages are our tools to get the job done. But one has to plan , > work the plan, basically execute it. This is how I learned working IBM in > NYC ...it works IMHO.. > > > >Scott > > > >---------------------------------------------------------------------- > >For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > >send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN > -- Scott Ford IDMWORKS z/OS Development ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
