> The assembler was SPPS. I should have had some coffee before responding!
-- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 ________________________________________ From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [[email protected]] on behalf of Wayne Bickerdike [[email protected]] Sent: Monday, April 27, 2020 1:06 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: C Seymour, The assembler was SPPS. Too close to the stats package name SPSS. I was working at a DOS/VSE shop in England in 1983 and they had COBOL and SPPS on their IBM cash registers. I had neither mainframe COBOL nor SPPS skills but I'd written a whole bunch of Microfocus COBOL on CP/M micros. I convinced them that I could do mainframe COBOL, which wasn't that difficult. When I looked at the SPPS code, it was macro Assembler, so that was the start of a short time with same. A few years later I found myself in Melbourne, Australia working for a department store. They also had 3651 store controllers and 36.. POS terminals (point of sale LOL). The 3651 implemented a local area network before I'd seen what we know now as LAN. Connected to a FEP, it was quite smart in its day. The PC killed off this technology and within a few years most of this type of kit was on the scrap heap. On Mon, Apr 27, 2020 at 6:46 AM Seymour J Metz <[email protected]> wrote: > > I thought the macros were part of CONCEPT 14? > > CONCEPT 14 > (http://secure-web.cisco.com/1CHCEBy2ejyI8mo7e2XHtiMOF1hORd47Tu8xQPk_d4Xgyov2qzGyO4bvyX6uBHWPtVYnEI-un5lRLC1OSI6BMpiDcZWlS6cj5B4UyCSSswWuH6sOASr_Ki8G6fkIuxV8I5QdL9lZ-uSpzRDHW9I1AcJX3VeC60CgREV8KXC7UFn8_ugREkMgOK6l45j1SaWy9TMthbXpJ51jFfZI7npqfspDVJ6ipuZaJuV578rhbS0mj84ZyXQ7IArSTw7lnqtZrgAHsU1GVU5deLYp3ny9CDKLI4_uelb1kX1cdlegdqtx587ECKDN4wYNG3NHWWcIWOyeZ5xnutmZslhjrZPz-oJAn1a9eJ1wbwHkKmb1G4kFZ_7FiSRJPDrWaTb1M47y5W0lxEo_0uCoqZa_cm4ILFOw999NZcih4tfPMqbptYXlhwJkjKvE4yNmvIomo0hH8/http%3A%2F%2Fskycoast.us%2Fpscott%2Fsoftware%2Fmvs%2Fc14%2Fc14-0000.html%29 > could be what I was thinking of. It's the basis for the macro package in > the HLASM Toolkit. > > The macro package I actually used was called PROC. > > > http://secure-web.cisco.com/1-yqatGSqBMWY1MHlNnXHG6lxyioYHhuIzHSdmALEoj0jpwC66v5WGXmQoGF2NV_HKCT12H0IjBUIzSkTSRznuqQg1W9vCoIYmLycWibH6-Fk0Md4F4mtZGtxnIDPDTlK6hK9EaO5nFoJ2WkeqaZ_msUWN9A9m4RS8UShLYQehrWaSk521LcGRAwUW_mx0rRbYu8KkLSR8qfRunHQ8SQg8TGWRc9zaH79DKwqyNziqH4N9UgRnLVJbt4UE9n9sx9fyaVH_VBx0wqoj4e54IzKiESA4iBXTBr7Z3z1AfA-4Ak8LDa6O4GjN29aNLF0h0m-yKd7HGFWxHpHIFlIpq-Q3NBV5pP7IL1B1MWRXkb7ImdSmZoG2bmWS4bLvZmSowBPieqaLG4MOrAHcoK-mZcxzvtY-AofOj5hn4wllcwHuZQSPw25uB0bk0nFUcVRqNDR/http%3A%2F%2Fskycoast.us%2Fpscott%2Fsoftware%2Fmvs%2Fc14%2Fc14-0000.html > > The only SPSS I ever heard of was Statistical Package for the Social > Sciences, and it didn't look like assembler. > > > -- > Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz > http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 > > ________________________________________ > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [[email protected]] on behalf > of Wayne Bickerdike [[email protected]] > Sent: Sunday, April 26, 2020 4:01 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: C > > I thought the macros were part of CONCEPT 14? I do remember working on IBM > 3684 point of sale systems between 1982 and 1986. They were programmed > using an Asembler like language called SPSS II, it had IF THEN ELSE and > other macros. > > On Mon, Apr 27, 2020, 03:36 Seymour J Metz <[email protected]> wrote: > > > Those macros were not part of the assembler. As I recall there was a > > popular macro package called CONCEPT 101 (sp?) floating around, and > another > > package called PROC, but they didn't come from IBM. > > > > > > -- > > Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz > > http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 > > > > ________________________________________ > > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [[email protected]] on behalf > > of Mike Schwab [[email protected]] > > Sent: Sunday, April 26, 2020 1:25 PM > > To: [email protected] > > Subject: Re: C > > > > I was doing an internship in the Chicago area during the summer of > > 1984. They were using an assembler with IF macros. > > > > On Sun, Apr 26, 2020 at 2:11 PM Seymour J Metz <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > HLASM in 1980? Not before June 1992. I assume that you were using XF > and > > H, possibly with the SLAC mods on the latter (thank you, Greg and John.) > > > > > > > > > -- > > > Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz > > > http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 > > > > > > ________________________________________ > > > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [[email protected]] on > > behalf of Donald Blake [[email protected]] > > > Sent: Sunday, April 26, 2020 8:51 AM > > > To: [email protected] > > > Subject: C > > > > > > I took my first C course in 1980. The text was the original *The C > > > programming Language* by Kerrigan and Richie, which I still have on my > > > shelf, The text is copyright 1978. That's 42 years ago. I was an IBM HL > > > Assembler programmer at the time. BTW ... we still were using IFOX00 at > > the > > > time as well. > > > > > > > Hey, it's not politically correct to point out how old C is. > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz > > > > http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 > > > > > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > > > send email to [email protected] with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > > > send email to [email protected] with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN > > > > > > > > -- > > Mike A Schwab, Springfield IL USA > > Where do Forest Rangers go to get away from it all? > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > > send email to [email protected] with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > > send email to [email protected] with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to [email protected] with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to [email protected] with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN > -- Wayne V. 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