What I meant, but phrased poorly, was explicitly using UNIX facilities such
as BPX1* callable services, storing p"permanent" production level
application data in a UNIX file vs DSN, or using a UNIX shell & associated
UNIX shell commands (e.g.awk) in production JCL.

On Mon, Apr 13, 2020 at 10:17 AM Charles Mills <[email protected]> wrote:

> Actually, I considered asserting that there is no such thing as running on
> z/OS NOT under UNIX. <g>
>
> I believe that "z/OS is UNIX" is a true statement.
>
> Most of us in this group think of z/OS as a bunch of traditional stuff
> with USS glued on top. From the Open Group's legal point of view, z/OS is
> UNIX with some extra, proprietary stuff thrown in (as is Windows Server).
>
> USS is not something you "run under." USS is a set of interfaces into
> various z/OS services. As is JCL. As is LE. As is TSO.
>
> Charles
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[email protected]] On
> Behalf Of Kirk Wolf
> Sent: Monday, April 13, 2020 7:48 AM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: Any shop use UNIX in a production job?
>
> Do you mean -
>
> - using z/OS Unix syscalls?
> - using the z/OS Unix file system?
> - using the z/OS Unix shell?
>
> FWIW - I contend that there is no such thing as "running under Unix" on
> z/OS.  All please discuss :-)
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