I'm familiar with SPF/PC and that's great for simple editing with
something familiar from ISPF.
However, if you want to learn Java beyond "hello world" you will need an
IDE. Java is a complex language and just creating
packages and classes is onerous using a text editor. You need context
assist and one-click refactoring to help you and either IDEA
or Eclipse will do that.
On 2020-04-13 11:13 AM, CM Poncelet wrote:
SPF/PC is the CTC PC-version of ISPF/PDF. It supports Rexx (but not the
full IBM REXX), ISREDIT edit macros, primary and line commands, tables,
panels etc., and it also supports assembling, compiling, link-editing
and executing programs - all from within SPF/PC.
I use it for writing Rexx, C, C++, MASM 6.1 (the Microsoft version of
Intel assembler) and for just about everything else.
The problem with compiling Java is that SPF/PC supports only DOS 8.3
format files, which then excludes ".java" extensions as shown below:
javac C:\JAVA\MYPROGS\CH01\HELLO1~1.java > C:\JAVA\OUTPUT\HELLO1~1.OUT
javac: file not found: C:\JAVA\MYPROGS\CH01\HELLO1~1.java
Usage: javac <options> <source files>
use -help for a list of possible options
The alternative would be to use "Notepad", up with which I will not put.
SPF/PC(1) ──────────────────── PRIMARY OPTION PANEL ───────────────────── V 4.0
OPTION ═══►
0 SPF/PC PARMS - Specify terminal and user parameters USERID - CMP
1 BROWSE - Display source data or output listings TIME - 03:50
2 EDIT - Create or change source data OPER SYS - DOS
3 UTILITIES - Perform utility functions DATE - 20.097
4 FOREGROUND - Invoke user applications in foreground
5 ENVIRONMENT - Display information about system configuration
6 COMMAND - Execute system command
7 DIALOG TEST - Perform dialog testing
8 EH? - Testing new features
C CHANGES - Changes from last version
T TUTORIAL - Display information about SPF/PC
S SAMPLES - Sample panels and programs ▄▄▄ ▄▄▄▄
X EXIT - Terminate SPF/PC ▄▄▄▄─ ▄▄▄▄▄▄
▄▄─▄▄─ ▄▄──▄▄─
Enter END command to terminate SPF/PC. ▄▄─ ▄▄─ ▄▄─ ▄▄─
▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄ ▄▄─ ▄▄─
VERSION 4.0.7 (C) COPYRIGHT ────▄▄── ▄▄ ▄▄▄▄▄▄─
COMMAND TECHNOLOGY CORP 1984, 1994 ▄▄─ ▄▄─ ▄▄▄▄──
── ── ────
On 12/04/2020 04:42, David Crayford wrote:
Instead of these work arounds to use a prehistoric DOS-based editor
why don't you switch to an IDE?
The best IDE for Java is Intellij IDEA which has highly advanced code
analysis/refactoring features. What exactly does SPF/PC buy you?
On 2020-04-12 10:56 AM, CM Poncelet wrote:
No can do. The SPF/PC 4.0.7 editor is DOS-based, but has an extender to
use whatever memory it needs > 640K.
It's Windoze that needs fixing.
On 12/04/2020 03:45, Paul Gilmartin wrote:
On Sun, 12 Apr 2020 03:40:58 +0100, CM Poncelet wrote:
Thanks, but never mind.
The change to using '.jav' instead of '.java' for the compiler would
have to be done at Java's implementation level, i.e. as a sysadmin or
sysprog. I have found no-one among the Java developers and course
tutors
who could tell me how to do this. So I thought this list *might* know.
Better to fix the editor than to break the compiler.
-- gil
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