Sorry, that should be redesign of the Interpreter.

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Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz
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> Sucks.  WAD.  Sucks.

ITYM BAD.

> I raised this issue here several years ago and got the
> (condescending, IIRC) explanation:  Of course it works that way.
> the converter(?) builds a control block listing all EXPORTed JCL
> symbol definitions for the step and passes that to the interpreter.

Slim's out of town. That would imply a major, and implausible, redesign of the 
Converter. It could be true, but I don't believe it.


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On Mon, 30 Mar 2020 09:29:35 -0400, Tony Thigpen wrote:

>Actually, it makes sense to me, in a strange way.
>I don't know if I can describe why it makes sense, but I will try.
>
>1) An // EXEC card is read and a 'step' begins. The // EXEC card itself
>must be interpreted.
>2) The rest of the step 'stuff' (until the next // EXEC) is read in to
>the pre-processor.
>3) The pre-processor first handles things that don't require read-ahead
>processing to the end of the step.
>4) The pre-processor next handles things that did require read-ahead
>processing, such as "//PARMDD  DD *,SYMBOLS=JCLONLY" that it could not
>process on the first pass.
>
>Now, why it worked without PARMDD is because the '// EXEC' is processed
>and intrepreted before all the "let's get the step stuff now" logic
>(step 2 above).
>
>Like I say, hard to describe.
>
Sucks.  WAD.  Sucks.

I raised this issue here several years ago and got the
(condescending, IIRC) explanation:  Of course it works that way.
The converter(?) builds a control block listing all EXPORTed JCL
symbol definitions for the step and passes that to the interpreter.
I suspect the substitution is actually performed by JES during
execution.

I had tried to use different values of the same symbol name in
multiple SYSINs in the same step.

I resorted to a cumbersome renaming so names would be
distinct.

IBM could have done better.  IBM doesn't care.

-- gil

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