Thanks to all who replied via List or offline. I was not asking how to fix the 
JCL errors. We've had to do that (unassisted) for decades. I was asking about a 
x/OS change that occurred some time ago whereby the actual error is displayed 
on the user's screen instead of forcing one to guess by trial and error. Did 
that change actually occur, or am I dreaming? 

.
.
J.O.Skip Robinson
Southern California Edison Company
Electric Dragon Team Paddler 
SHARE MVS Program Co-Manager
323-715-0595 Mobile
626-543-6132 Office ⇐=== NEW
robin...@sce.com

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Shmuel,
I did mentioned the need to have an allocation free TMP procedure. However, if 
the OP can't login, and do not have sich proc, he can see what is wrong using 
console (JES) commands. Fixing the issue is possible using native edit commands.

Best
ITschak Mugzach
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On Fri, Mar 6, 2020 at 4:00 PM Seymour J Metz <sme...@gmu.edu> wrote:

> You don't have an alternate proc? You can't telnet to a Unix shell?
>
>
> --
> Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz
> http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3
>
>
> ________________________________________
> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List <IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU> on 
> behalf of ITschak Mugzach <imugz...@gmail.com>
> Sent: Friday, March 6, 2020 6:07 AM
> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> Subject: Re: JCL error during TSO/E logon
>
> You can used recycled paper as well... I thought no one can login, so 
> you must use the console to modify stcclass and print to viee.
>
> ITschak
>
> בתאריך יום ו׳, 6 במרץ 2020, 13:05, מאת Seymour J Metz ‏<sme...@gmu.edu>:
>
> > Why kill a tree?
> >
> >
> > --
> > Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz
> > http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3
> >
> >
> > ________________________________________
> > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List <IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU> on 
> > behalf of ITschak Mugzach <imugz...@gmail.com>
> > Sent: Friday, March 6, 2020 1:21 AM
> > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> > Subject: Re: JCL error during TSO/E logon
> >
> > Modify tso class in jess to keep the joblog. Your operators can 
> > print it for you to review the error
> >
> >
> > ITschak
> >
> > בתאריך יום ו׳, 6 במרץ 2020, 1:08, מאת Jesse 1 Robinson ‏<
> > jesse1.robin...@sce.com>:
> >
> > > From the dawn of time, it was deucedly difficult to find the cause 
> > > of a JCL error during TSO logon. Then several releases ago, we 
> > > were treated
> > to a
> > > 'fix'. The error would be displayed on the user's screen, allowing 
> > > the problem to be corrected within seconds. Yesterday we had such 
> > > a
> > situation,
> > > but any helpful message flashed on the screen for milliseconds and 
> > > then disappeared. In this case it turned out to be missing logon proc.
> > >
> > > I hunted in vain for doc on this problem, including maybe a need 
> > > to
> set a
> > > parm somewhere. We run TPX, which it just now occurs to me might 
> > > be the problem...
> > >
> > > .
> > > .
> > > J.O.Skip Robinson
> > > Southern California Edison Company Electric Dragon Team Paddler 
> > > SHARE MVS Program Co-Manager
> > > 323-715-0595 Mobile
> > > 626-543-6132 Office <===== NEW
> > > robin...@sce.com<mailto:robin...@sce.com>


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