Yeah.  We do have regressions tests, but it's not built in to change control 
itself.  Perhaps something we should look in to enhancing.  Thanks.

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We migrate source *and* executable into a controlled stage environment where 
the app folks are supposed to do one last round of tests.   From there, its 
straight copy to all PROD locations.

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You’ve got me there!   I would think that chance is relatively small and
wouldn’t worry about it.

On Wed, Jan 15, 2020 at 12:08 PM Frank Swarbrick < frank.swarbr...@outlook.com> 
wrote:

> Intentional differences, yes.  Bug; probably not!  🙂
>
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> Any difference should be documented in the migration guides I would think.
>
> On Tue, Jan 14, 2020 at 1:38 PM Frank Swarbrick <
> frank.swarbr...@outlook.com>
> wrote:
>
> > I understand that the runtime is part of LE, and is generally shared
> > between versions (at least V5 and V6 seem to share the same runtime
> > for many/most functions).  Conceivably it's still possible that the
> > code generated by a certain version of a compiler may have defects.
> > Probably less likely if the code is in a pre-existing feature.
> >
> > My question has to do with the (probably slight) possibility that
> > the
> code
> > generated by one compiler would be different, for the same
> > statement, for another.
> >
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> > Sent: Monday, January 13, 2020 4:54 PM
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> > Subject: Re: Migrating to new compiler release
> >
> > Caution and backups and fallback strategies are always good, but I
> > don't think there is much relationship between *running* a COBOL
> > version X program and having the *compiler* version Y installed. I
> > believe all of the
> runtime
> > is part of LE, not the compiler, and compatibility from VS COBOL II
> > (if I recall correctly) to current C++, PL/I and COBOL is what LE
> > does for a living. Not always perfectly, but that is what APARs and PTFs 
> > are for.
> >
> > Charles
> >
> >
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> > Subject: Migrating to new compiler release
> >
> > I was wondering what "methodologies" shops have for migrating to a
> > new "release" within the same "version" of a compiler.
> > Specifically, we currently have Enterprise COBOL 6.2 (V6 R2) and 6.3 is now 
> > available.
> Our
> > systems group asked if we just wanted to "replace" 6.2 with 6.3.
> > I'm a
> bit
> > wary especially of a program having been compiled with V6.2 but then
> > implemented with V6.3.  Am I over thinking this, perhaps because of
> > the large difference in the compiler from V4 to V5?  What is the
> > likelihood
> of
> > a
> > compiler bug being introduced in V6.3 for code that worked in V6.2?
> > Perhaps
> > very, very little.  But I'd still like to hear thoughts and opinions.
> >
> > For what its worth, along with 6.2 we still have 4.2 and 5.2 installed.
> > But
> > we really should only be using 6.2 at this point any time a program
> > is recompiled.  Anyway, up to this point we've always made sure that
> > the production compile is done with the same version/release as all
> > of the testing.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Frank
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