Skip. I helped a Brokerage company convert some channel Extension hardware devices to some more supported for Y2K. It was interesting for sure. But TSO utilities a house of a different color.
Scott On Wed, Dec 18, 2019 at 5:39 PM Seymour J Metz <sme...@gmu.edu> wrote: > It was a typo. That's my story and I'm sticking to it. If you had used > FORMAT extensively you'd make the same typo. > > > -- > Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz > http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 > > > ________________________________________ > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List <IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU> on behalf > of David Spiegel <dspiegel...@hotmail.com> > Sent: Wednesday, December 18, 2019 5:19 PM > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Subject: Re: Backward compat--how far? > > Hi R' Shmuel AMV"SH, > "... MERDE ... " > Was that a Freudian Slip or a typo? {;}-? > > Regards, > David > > On 2019-12-18 17:11, Seymour J Metz wrote: > > I thought that everyone using TSO Data set Utilities: COPY, FORMAT, LIST > and MERDE, 5734-UT1, had converted to ASI TSO Superset ( > https://eur01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fasisoft.com%2Fproducts%2Ftso-superset-utilities&data=02%7C01%7C%7Cc971c13c943f4ead24de08d784075295%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637123039349329554&sdata=5pNxIVvl4Eoos4Ixr7Kvi1uHceisuWl1qlgin4Zh7tQ%3D&reserved=0) > long since. > > > > > > -- > > Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz > > > https://eur01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http:%2F%2Fmason.gmu.edu%2F~smetz3&data=02%7C01%7C%7Cc971c13c943f4ead24de08d784075295%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637123039349339565&sdata=w47PKZXX7NfOoELvMJaEDLUCuin7Mv9NvyhDUISHgBw%3D&reserved=0 > > > > > > ________________________________________ > > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List <IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU> on > behalf of Jesse 1 Robinson <jesse1.robin...@sce.com> > > Sent: Tuesday, December 17, 2019 12:58 PM > > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > > Subject: Re: Backward compat--how far? > > > > We experienced a lot of brouhaha during Y2K preparation over the ancient > and venerable TSO Utilities: COPY/MERGE/... Their link edit dates were in > the early 1970s. We had to fight up the chain of command to avoid deleting > them. Of course they work as well--or poorly--today as they did in 1999. > Sometimes reason can prevail. > > > > As for ISAM, IBM provided a transparent conversion to VSAM in the 1980s. > No application code changes, but a huuuge improvement in performance. No > charge. > > > > . > > . > > J.O.Skip Robinson > > Southern California Edison Company > > Electric Dragon Team Paddler > > SHARE MVS Program Co-Manager > > 323-715-0595 Mobile > > 626-543-6132 Office ⇐=== NEW > > robin...@sce.com > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List <IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU> On > Behalf Of Seymour J Metz > > Sent: Tuesday, December 17, 2019 9:47 AM > > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > > Subject: (External):Re: Backward compat--how far? > > > > Lots of OS/360 code can still be run unchanged. Some will take an ABEND > S0C4 due to accessing unassigned storage; that problem shouldn't exist for > code written for an OS/VS2 or MVS/SP system. > > > > ISAM may be an issue for some code, as may BTAM and QTAM.. > > > > > > -- > > Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz > > > https://eur01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http:%2F%2Fmason.gmu.edu%2F~smetz3&data=02%7C01%7C%7Cc971c13c943f4ead24de08d784075295%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637123039349339565&sdata=w47PKZXX7NfOoELvMJaEDLUCuin7Mv9NvyhDUISHgBw%3D&reserved=0 > > > > > > ________________________________________ > > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List <IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU> on > behalf of Rupert Reynolds <rreyno...@cix.co.uk> > > Sent: Monday, December 16, 2019 3:47 PM > > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > > Subject: Backward compat--how far? > > > > Another question, purely out of interest: > > Can the old MVS/SP code still run unchanged? > > I reminisced with a friend about the day he whinged about a 64k code > segment size on Intel micros and I out-whinged him with a 4k code CSECT :-) > > > > Can a modern z/OS installation still assemble, link and run the old > stuff, such as the typical local utilities we all saw: > > > > MYPROG CSECT > > MYPROG RMODE ANY > > MYPROG AMODE 24 > > STM 14,12,12(13) > > USING ... > > > > If so, that's quite an achievement, both in the changes and the > flexibility of the original design! > > > > Rupert > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > > send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > > send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN > -- *IDMWORKS * Scott Ford z/OS Dev. “By elevating a friend or Collegue you elevate yourself, by demeaning a friend or collegue you demean yourself” www.idmworks.com scott.f...@idmworks.com Blog: www.idmworks.com/blog *The information contained in this email message and any attachment may be privileged, confidential, proprietary or otherwise protected from disclosure. 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