I guess the point I was trying to make somewhat imperfectly is that while
the Linux guest might be able to access CKD disks and use SCSI protocols
that is all emulated by z/VM so it's difficult to see the advantages of
what the OP is asking.

On Wed, Dec 18, 2019, 12:39 AM Mike Schwab <mike.a.sch...@gmail.com> wrote:

> You will need to convert to using Linux containers without the z/VM
> layer and FCP to open system volumes.  I did this on ESS F20s, should
> be similar for DS8xxx.
>
> On Tue, Dec 17, 2019 at 2:44 AM Peter <dbajava...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > CKD are well supported for Linux guest.
> >
> > But having FBA disk to linux guest will improve any sort of performance ?
> >
> > On Tue, 17 Dec, 2019, 12:32 PM Laurence Chiu, <lch...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Slightly outside my area of knowledge but since z/VM is the OS that is
> > > attached to the DS8K, it's doing the physical IO. And this is usually
> > > FICON.
> > >
> > > The Linux guest is being provided a virtual disk from z/VM so the disk
> > > protocol is probably not relevant. Plus I don't think a Linux guest can
> > > actually see a CKD volume - it would all look ike FB.
> > >
> > > Others feel free to chip in here
> > >
> > > On Tue, Dec 17, 2019 at 4:45 PM Peter <dbajava...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > > I believe giving a dasd 3390(CKD) to linux guest and internally it
> > > converts
> > > > that into SCSI.
> > > >
> > > > So having SCSI alone for Linux guest would be better interns of
> > > performance
> > > > ?
> > > >
> > > > On Tue, 17 Dec, 2019, 12:54 AM Laurence Chiu, <lch...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > I asked my z/VM and DS8K person this question and he wasn't sure
> what
> > > you
> > > > > were asking.
> > > > >
> > > > > He said he defines all the storage on his ds8k box as CKD though he
> > > could
> > > > > have chosen fixed block and assigns all that storage to the z/vm
> host.
> > > > >
> > > > > For each Linux instance that requires storage he just carves out
> the
> > > hunk
> > > > > of storage on Z/VM and assigns it to the Linux guest .
> > > > >
> > > > > SCSI is irrelevant because the Linux guest is virtual and doesn't
> need
> > > to
> > > > > know about the disk protocol.   And his z/VM host is connected via
> > > FICON.
> > > > >
> > > > > He said the only time one might need to go back to the ds8k is if
> some
> > > of
> > > > > the storage on that box hadn't been defined and needed to be
> redefined
> > > > and
> > > > > then attached to the z/vm host. But he's never had to do that in 10
> > > years
> > > > > of running that system.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > On Tue, Dec 17, 2019, 7:28 AM Peter <dbajava...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Hello,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Could someone please recommend a manual which describes step by
> step
> > > > > > procedure to define SCSI on DS8K.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I need this procedure to define SCSI disk for my Linux guest
> running
> > > on
> > > > > > zVM.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Peter
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
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