On Thursday, September 26, 2019, 09:19:02 PM PDT, David Crayford 
<dcrayf...@gmail.com> wrote:
 
 > On 2019-09-27 2:05 AM, Jon Perryman wrote:

>> This assumes Javascript and CSS are not part of the HTML language.


> They're not. They have completely different language standards and can 

> be used independently of HTML. 

Implementation of HTML, JavaScript and CSS are at the discretion of the web 
browser regardless who sets the standards. The browser has tightly integrated 
HTML, JavaScript and CSS into a single entity that is encapsulated within HTML. 
Just because these standards exist does not mean they are not tightly 
integrated into a single combined language environment.

>> By this logic, C++ is actually 2 separate languages (C and C++) but no one 
>> ever makes this distinction.

> I make the distinction. They are most certainly two separate languages 
> and evolving in very different directions.data types.

I think you missed my point. C++ requires C code be embedded to make it a 
language environment. C++ does not have "xxx = 1" which is actually part of the 
C language.


>> Do you consider HTML's '<input onclick="some javascript">' 
>> fundamentally different to C++'s 'input::onclick { some C }'? 

> I don't consider them equivalent.


And you would be wrong. I can actually justify my point. Both create the 
onclick method. One in javascript and the other in C++.

>> Up until  2009, JavaScript was not valid outside of HTML.

> Mozilla released Rhino way back in 1998.

I stand corrected but Rhino never gained mainstream momentum. NodeJS changed 
that and really became a widely used external JavaScript.  

  

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