The expression "not one prutah" was still used in the last quarter of the 20th Century. See <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israeli_pruta>.
-- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 ________________________________________ From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List <IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU> on behalf of David Spiegel <dspiegel...@hotmail.com> Sent: Monday, September 23, 2019 8:33 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: z15 from IBM i perspective R'Shmuel, You're mixing monetary systems. P'rutah was used in Babylonia approximately 2000 years ago, Agorah/Lira was used last century. On 2019-09-23 18:57, Seymour J Metz wrote: > Well, in Hebrew it would be (translated) "He doesn't have even a prutah, > where a prutah is a tenth of an agorah and an agorah is a hundredth of a > lira; at the time, a lira was worth less than a dollar, so you're looking at > just under a mill of wealth. > > > -- > Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz > https://nam02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http:%2F%2Fmason.gmu.edu%2F~smetz3&data=02%7C01%7C%7C467bb33489c54dedce0708d740796d93%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637048762606308009&sdata=2yHLjVcXd%2B9Rn%2FXo%2BRynbH8iNaR4qHpSJL0kJ4fQvj0%3D&reserved=0 > > > ________________________________________ > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List <IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU> on behalf of > Jesse 1 Robinson <jesse1.robin...@sce.com> > Sent: Monday, September 23, 2019 6:48 PM > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Subject: Re: z15 from IBM i perspective > > Thanks for the Yiddish twist. I can hear these phrases echo from my New York > origin in-laws. On a different tack: > > "He doesn't have a red cent to his name." (Or farthing if you're on that side > of the pond.) > > Suppose we scrounged through his pockets and found that he did indeed have a > red cent (or farthing). Would that sum render him substantially more solvent? > There's something about the phraseology that takes it out of the realm of > simple finance. > > -----Original Message----- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List <IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU> On Behalf Of > zMan > Sent: Monday, September 23, 2019 3:32 PM > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Subject: (External):Re: z15 from IBM i perspective > > So you're saying it was translated...carelessly? > > On Mon, Sep 23, 2019 at 6:29 PM Seymour J Metz <sme...@gmu.edu> wrote: > >> ObPedant "I could care less?" >> >> "I could care less." is the result of translating an ironic question >> in Yiddish into a meaningless statement in English, probably because >> somebody had a tin ear and didn't pick up on the inflection indicating >> that it was a question. >> >> >> -- >> Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz >> https://nam02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http:%2F%2Fmason.gmu.edu%2F~smetz3&data=02%7C01%7C%7C467bb33489c54dedce0708d740796d93%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637048762606308009&sdata=2yHLjVcXd%2B9Rn%2FXo%2BRynbH8iNaR4qHpSJL0kJ4fQvj0%3D&reserved=0 >> >> >> ________________________________________ >> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List <IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU> on >> behalf of Phil Smith III <li...@akphs.com> >> Sent: Monday, September 23, 2019 4:04 PM >> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU >> Subject: Re: z15 from IBM i perspective >> >> Charles Mills wrote: >> >>> Interesting article even if you could care less about the IBM i >>> (AS/400 >> for anyone who has been living under a rock for the past 20 years). >> >> >> >> "couldn't care less" :) >> >> >> >> BTW, just to be irritatingly pedantic: IBM i is not really AS/400. >> It's what AS/400 developed into, but it refers to the current >> generation of the >> AS/400 OS (formerly OS/400) running on IBM Power. From Wikipedia: >> >> IBM i is an operating system that runs on IBM Power Systems and IBM >> PureSystems. It was named OS/400 when it was introduced with the >> AS/400 line of computer systems in 1988, was later renamed i5/OS, and >> was renamed IBM i in 2008 when IBM Power Systems was introduced. >> >> >> >> So it's confusing, because "AS/400" begat "iSeries" begat "System i" >> begat "IBM i", only IBM i implies "on Power", whereas the others imply >> "on bespoke hardware". Sort of as if Apple had renamed Mac OS to macOS >> when they went to Intel hardware (which is not when they did that). >> >> >> >> This doesn't really matter nowadays, since anything old enough to be >> pre-Power is very obsolete, but it's sorta interesting. I find that >> customers still say "AS/400"; none of the "i" names appear to have >> ever really caught on. >> >> >> >> Related: It's "IBM Power", not "PowerPC". PowerPC is the very old >> precursor to the current generation; this is much like saying your >> shiny new ThinkPad has a 386-it's sorta kinda in the neighborhood, but >> really just wrong. >> >> >> >> Signed, >> >> Mr. Pedantic > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN > . > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
