Indeed.  Browsing SLXTLOAD (for XP/TSO), there are many members starting 
with ADS*.   
     Coincidence?

Thanks!
BobL

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Dave Cole
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Subject: [EXT] Re: Xpediter: Same Debugger from Competing Vendors???

"ADS" (pronounced "A-D-S") was the acronym for "Application Development 
Systems, Inc". I remember that company, but it no longer exists, and the name 
was so generic that Google searches come up with a lot of hits, none of which 
are on point.

Dave Cole






At 9/24/2019 02:56 PM, David Staudacher wrote:
>I'm trying to nail down the origin of Xpediter.
>We all know it is now exclusively marketed by Compuware, but was
>this*always* the case?
>I find *multiple* Computerworld articles from the mid-80s with ads by 
>"Application Development Systems, Inc" promoting an IBM Mainframe 
>Batch/TSO/VM/CICS debugging product called "Xpediter".
>
>For examples, see:
>https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__books.google.com_bo
>oks-3Fid-3DmXEbp4U3AT8C-26pg-3DPA103&d=DwIBAg&c=MWFkEADu9ctt4KEmLIuwsQ&
>r=2NwYDhbHSLSk8Y20BtkXqDR04_yd_pXjwSDkT22AeGs&m=Nr5HkGfzQUidsSzPW4utRCB
>wuOPi3LD30HRRUt2vEBQ&s=aMRPQ-ZcKEXZA5RRIR10Hn07_USSea7jTweKgoP6l6Y&e=
>https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__books.google.com_bo
>oks-3Fid-3D0OuJCcQkEzEC-26pg-3DPA10-2DIA29&d=DwIBAg&c=MWFkEADu9ctt4KEmL
>IuwsQ&r=2NwYDhbHSLSk8Y20BtkXqDR04_yd_pXjwSDkT22AeGs&m=Nr5HkGfzQUidsSzPW
>4utRCBwuOPi3LD30HRRUt2vEBQ&s=x7rtwv4nr8-NxxZGUpG7nUXSyTzkCJLprKSuNXU9DI
>M&e= 
>https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__books.google.com_bo
>oks-3Fid-3Da8FBzsfoBZEC-26pg-3DPA87&d=DwIBAg&c=MWFkEADu9ctt4KEmLIuwsQ&r
>=2NwYDhbHSLSk8Y20BtkXqDR04_yd_pXjwSDkT22AeGs&m=Nr5HkGfzQUidsSzPW4utRCBw
>uOPi3LD30HRRUt2vEBQ&s=fnAPn5xvQqElXHripIjIg-R7enC8l3_FBcguyKdNcpg&e=
>None of these ads give *any* indication that Xpediter is a Compuware 
>product, yet the description *clearly* matches the Compuware product we 
>all know.
>Was this a product which Compuware later acquired?
>( I doubt this, as I find other pages which say Compuware launched 
>Xpediter v1.0 some time in the '70s ) Was this a true competing product 
>from a *different* vendor which just happened to have the same name as 
>the famous Compuware product?
>( I doubt this as I'm sure Compuware would have filed a lawsuit for 
>trademark infrigement but I can't find any evidence that such a suit 
>was ever filed) Was "Application Development Systems" a licensee which 
>sold Xpediter independently?
>( This seems most likely, yet I can find no evidence to conclusively 
>support this )
>
>Anyone here know the skinny on this?
>Gregory Kurtz??
>
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