Indeed. Browsing SLXTLOAD (for XP/TSO), there are many members starting with ADS*.
Coincidence? Thanks! BobL -----Original Message----- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List <IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU> On Behalf Of Dave Cole Sent: Tuesday, September 24, 2019 1:21 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: [EXT] Re: Xpediter: Same Debugger from Competing Vendors??? "ADS" (pronounced "A-D-S") was the acronym for "Application Development Systems, Inc". I remember that company, but it no longer exists, and the name was so generic that Google searches come up with a lot of hits, none of which are on point. Dave Cole At 9/24/2019 02:56 PM, David Staudacher wrote: >I'm trying to nail down the origin of Xpediter. >We all know it is now exclusively marketed by Compuware, but was >this*always* the case? >I find *multiple* Computerworld articles from the mid-80s with ads by >"Application Development Systems, Inc" promoting an IBM Mainframe >Batch/TSO/VM/CICS debugging product called "Xpediter". > >For examples, see: >https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__books.google.com_bo >oks-3Fid-3DmXEbp4U3AT8C-26pg-3DPA103&d=DwIBAg&c=MWFkEADu9ctt4KEmLIuwsQ& >r=2NwYDhbHSLSk8Y20BtkXqDR04_yd_pXjwSDkT22AeGs&m=Nr5HkGfzQUidsSzPW4utRCB >wuOPi3LD30HRRUt2vEBQ&s=aMRPQ-ZcKEXZA5RRIR10Hn07_USSea7jTweKgoP6l6Y&e= >https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__books.google.com_bo >oks-3Fid-3D0OuJCcQkEzEC-26pg-3DPA10-2DIA29&d=DwIBAg&c=MWFkEADu9ctt4KEmL >IuwsQ&r=2NwYDhbHSLSk8Y20BtkXqDR04_yd_pXjwSDkT22AeGs&m=Nr5HkGfzQUidsSzPW >4utRCBwuOPi3LD30HRRUt2vEBQ&s=x7rtwv4nr8-NxxZGUpG7nUXSyTzkCJLprKSuNXU9DI >M&e= >https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__books.google.com_bo >oks-3Fid-3Da8FBzsfoBZEC-26pg-3DPA87&d=DwIBAg&c=MWFkEADu9ctt4KEmLIuwsQ&r >=2NwYDhbHSLSk8Y20BtkXqDR04_yd_pXjwSDkT22AeGs&m=Nr5HkGfzQUidsSzPW4utRCBw >uOPi3LD30HRRUt2vEBQ&s=fnAPn5xvQqElXHripIjIg-R7enC8l3_FBcguyKdNcpg&e= >None of these ads give *any* indication that Xpediter is a Compuware >product, yet the description *clearly* matches the Compuware product we >all know. >Was this a product which Compuware later acquired? >( I doubt this, as I find other pages which say Compuware launched >Xpediter v1.0 some time in the '70s ) Was this a true competing product >from a *different* vendor which just happened to have the same name as >the famous Compuware product? >( I doubt this as I'm sure Compuware would have filed a lawsuit for >trademark infrigement but I can't find any evidence that such a suit >was ever filed) Was "Application Development Systems" a licensee which >sold Xpediter independently? >( This seems most likely, yet I can find no evidence to conclusively >support this ) > >Anyone here know the skinny on this? >Gregory Kurtz?? > >---------------------------------------------------------------------- >For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send >email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN **************************************************************** Confidentiality Note: The information contained in this message, and any attachments, may contain confidential and/or privileged material. It is intended solely for the person(s) or entity to which it is addressed. Any review, retransmission, dissemination, or taking of any action in reliance upon this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient(s) is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any device. **************************************************************** ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN