The only reason I considered the bypass was because the PE chain was preventing 
the APPLY of the PTFs to aid detecting and migrating from USERCSA.

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> Behalf Of Jousma, David
> Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2019 12:00 PM
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> Subject: Re: Considering Bypassing ERROR HOLD for OA58037
> 
> I'm getting confused by this thread.  I thought I recalled you had said the 
> PTF
> you were bypassing was for S16E?   All of those DEB Check PTF's are in
> support of the changes needed for OSPROTECT.  And yes, we ran into the
> S16E issue on certain application datasets, only in a blue moon.   Eventually,
> IBM got it all figured out, and the problem is fixed.   I do recall they said 
> they
> saw the problem in VPS, where VPS was opening/closing an IMAGELIB many
> times.
> 
> But none of this had anything to do with USERKEY CSA.    That’s an entirely
> different animal, and needs to be rectified before going V2.4.
> 
> I suspect you won't have much luck backing these PTF's off because they
> reach out and touch a lot of different modules.   The only real option would
> be if you have a known complete backup of the entire SMPE environment
> *before* the application of any of these PTF's.
> 
> Incidentally, we do have UA95897 applied for over a year now, and have not
> run into the scenario that OA58037 describes.   Seems like a pretty small
> window of problem, and even then, it was on a task/job that was being
> cancelled to begin with.  I'd probably open ticket with IBM on that APAR, and
> ask an opinion (which they may not give).
> 
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> -----Original Message-----
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> Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2019 2:44 PM
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> Subject: Re: Considering Bypassing ERROR HOLD for OA58037
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> Well, I do run VPS/TCPIP
> Key  Product Name
> ---  ------------
> 012  DRS
> 001  VPS
> 004  VPS/PCL
> 002  VPS/TCPIP
> 
> z/OS 2.1 at RSU1903 (RSU1908 included in the set that could come on with
> the error bypass.
> We don't have many printers, but they are all TCP/IP network attached. So
> far I've not experienced (or at least not noticed) any of the errors in the 
> link.
> 
> Since I found the Health Check disappointing, I could consider backing the
> bypassed PTFs out. I haven't looked. Are the SMF fields with the USERCSA
> data also part of one or more of the PTFs in this chain? There were 27 that
> went on with the bypass and selecting UA94607. (And 31 others that had
> dependencies satisfied :) )
> 
> Only running them in the sandboxes for now.
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List <IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU> On
> > Behalf Of Brian Westerman
> > Sent: Monday, September 16, 2019 9:22 PM
> > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> > Subject: Re: Considering Bypassing ERROR HOLD for OA58037
> >
> > That's part of a pretty long comedy of errors that apply to (mostly)
> > LRS's VPSIP product.  If you are running VPSIP, like several of our
> > sites, then you are likely aware of the issues that this whole string of 
> > aparas
> has caused.
> >
> > https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-
> > 3A__www.ibm.com_support_pages_debchk-2Ddeb-2Dlock-2Dnew-
> > 2Dfunction-2Dlist-
> >
> 2Dmaintenance&d=DwIFaQ&c=C3yme8gMkxg_ihJNXS06ZyWk4EJm8LdrrvxQ
> > b-
> >
> Je7sw&r=u9g8rUevBoyCPAdo5sWE9w&m=RfHnql3CpaS3KFsgCx5LqRORoZTp
> > 07SIADw0RnXZmcA&s=4Cib0hikGVj-
> > d0uZAk1aIUAIlm51FKWEuYtMho4Ehww&e=
> >
> > If you are not using VPSIP then it probably won't effect you either
> > way to bypass the hold.
> >
> > Brian
> >
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