> There's no comparison with the ship's machinery.  That was designed by very
> conservative naval architects,

Yes, but those same naval engineers very often need to adapt
non-military (what today we call COTS) equipment for duty on a ship.
They know how to deal with modifying equipment to get to their
standard. When "washing machine" disk drives were used on ships, they
would have gigantic shockmounts installed. Certainly the Fastrand -
and the rest of the Univac associated with it - would get this
treatment.

About half the time I hear the Fastrand story, it involves the
Fastrand's gyro effects interfering with the ships movement. This I
find completely implausible.

--
Will

> and the propulsion system has far greater
> forces to deal with than gyroscopic effects.  I don't think it's totally
> implausible a disk drive not designed for a moving environment could cut
> loose... but those things were over-engineered quite a bit too.  So I for
> one abstain for the time being.
>
> sas
>
> On Mon, Jul 22, 2019 at 9:12 PM Ron Hawkins <ron.hawk...@ipsicsopt.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Will,
> >
> > I'm thinking that just because one article says the story is urban legend,
> > there are more references that talk to the FirstRand I actually being
> > installed on a US Navy ship.
> >
> > This 1st person posting says that it was on the USS Hunley, and the poster
> > was on board they removed it.
> > http://www.navydp.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?t=115
> >
> >
> > I checked the video twice when they talked about the FirstRand I on one of
> > the navy ships, and did not hear them say it was a legend.
> >
> > Interesting that Australia used them in the telegram messaging systems.
> >
> >
> > RON HAWKINS
> > Director, Ipsicsopt Pty Ltd (ACN: 627 705 971)
> > m+61 400029610| t: +1 4085625415 | f: +1 4087912585
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List <IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU> On Behalf
> > Of William Donzelli
> > Sent: Tuesday, 23 July 2019 10:02
> > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> > Subject: Re: [IBM-MAIN] DASD nostalgia
> >
> > > We had a professor who was on the inspection team out of the Navy Yard.
> > Said the drum popped out and churned around like a 4000lb weed-eater for
> > several minutes. I believe Adm. Hopper was on the review board and after a
> > short synopsis. "Just stupid!"
> >
> > If you could dig up the original inspection report - sure, that would be a
> > primary source.
> >
> > Otherwise, no.
> >
> > There is just too much "not right" about this myth, especially with a
> > little marine engineering knowledge and common sense thrown in.
> >
> > --
> > Will
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