Lizette, I think ISPF enqueues the profile table even on concatenated dd,so
not sure they can share ISRPROF/ISPPROF.

ITschak

On Fri, Jul 5, 2019 at 5:16 PM Lizette Koehler <[email protected]>
wrote:

> Note the following information from the ISPF Manual
>
>
> https://www.ibm.com/support/knowledgecenter/en/SSLTBW_2.1.0/com.ibm.zos.v2r1.f54ug00/aloptab.htm
>
>
> The table output library must be a partitioned data set. The ISPTABL
> ddname that defines the table output library can specify the same data set
> as the table input library, ddname ISPTLIB. The first data set in the
> ISPTLIB concatenation should be the same as the data set used for ISPTABL.
> This ensures predictable behavior of dialogs that use table services
> without specifying the LIBRARY keyword. The output and input data sets must
> be the same if the updated version of a table is to be reprocessed by the
> same dialog that updated it.
>
> The behavior can be due to the allocations on ISPTLIB and ISPTABL.
>
> Make sure the users dataset is at the top of BOTH allocations.
>
> Lizette
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List <[email protected]> On
> Behalf Of
> > ITschak Mugzach
> > Sent: Friday, July 05, 2019 6:12 AM
> > To: [email protected]
> > Subject: Re: Who is changing a user's ISPF profile
> >
> > And last: an ispf application is invoked without appl so it set pfkeys
> and
> > other profile settings is ISR / ISP instead of its own profile.
> >
> > ITschak
> >
> > בתאריך יום ו׳, 5 ביולי 2019, 16:03, מאת Joel C. Ewing ‏<[email protected]
> >:
> >
> > > Various possibilities:
> > > (1)The user is attempting to violate installation standards and a
> > > default installation initial edit macro is forcing the edit profile
> > > values back
> > >
> > > (2)The user is attempting to modify a locked edit profile, which means
> > > any changes he makes are temporary --  locking some default edit
> > > profiles is another way installations can encourage what they believe
> > > to be best practices for certain dataset types
> > >
> > > (3) The user may be changing the final qualifier of the dataset name,
> > > not realizing that the edit profile is tied to the final qualifier of
> > > the dataset name, not to the dataset itself.
> > >
> > > (4) The user may be editing datasets with so many different final
> > > dataset name qualifiers that he is exceeding the maximum number of
> > > retained edit profiles as defined by the installation -- which means
> > > his version of the least recently used edit profile will be dropped
> > > and the next time he edits a dataset corresponding to that edit
> > > profile a default profile will be used.
> > >
> > > I'm sure there are other possibilities.
> > >     Joel C. Ewing
> > >
> > > On 7/5/19 1:26 AM, Vernooij, Kees (ITOP NM) - KLM wrote:
> > > > If it is e.g. an ISPF Edit Initial Macro, changed by someone, the
> > > > user
> > > will be the one that modifies the Profile. This will be difficult to
> trap.
> > > > What has changed in their profile?
> > > >
> > > > Kees.
> > > >
> > > >> -----Original Message-----
> > > >> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List
> > > >> [mailto:[email protected]]
> > > On
> > > >> Behalf Of Anthony Thompson
> > > >> Sent: 05 July, 2019 4:33
> > > >> To: [email protected]
> > > >> Subject: Re: Who is changing a user's ISPF profile
> > > >>
> > > >> You probably want SMF record type 15, to tell you who has opened a
> > > dataset
> > > >> for output, and when.
> > > >>
> > > >> Are you a RACF shop? You can define a RACF profile for the user's
> > > >> ISPF profile dataset to ensure that only they have more than READ
> > > >> access, and use NOTIFY(userid) to get a TSO message whenever some
> > > >> other
> > > user/whatever
> > > >> fails the RACF check. ACF2 has similar facilities, and I've never
> > > >> met
> > > TSS.
> > > >>
> > > >> Ant.
> > > >>
> > > >> -----Original Message-----
> > > >> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List <[email protected]> On
> > > Behalf
> > > >> Of Gadi Ben-Avi
> > > >> Sent: Friday, 5 July 2019 12:21 AM
> > > >> To: [email protected]
> > > >> Subject: Who is changing a user's ISPF profile
> > > >>
> > > >> Hi,
> > > >>
> > > >> A user is complaining that 'someone' is changing their ISPF profile
> > > >> and setting that they set up are changing.
> > > >>
> > > >> Can I track this in SMF and see who, if anyone is doing this?
> > > >>
> > > >> I saw the SMF 42 records are created when members in a PDS or PDS/E
> > > >> are changed.
> > > >>
> > > >> Will they pick up ISPF profile changes?
> > > >> We are running z/OS v2.2.
> > > >>
> > > >> Thanks
> > > >> Gadi
> > > --
> > > Joel C. Ewing
> > >
> [>]
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