Well, it seems 'security' needs to be defined here. Probably like in my answer to Bill: difficulty * result.
You are secure enough if you can prevent a hacker to steal $100,= by delaying him for 1 hour. You are not if you can delay him for only one hour to steal a million. Kees. > -----Original Message----- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On > Behalf Of R.S. > Sent: 28 May, 2019 9:00 > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Subject: Re: Fwd: Just how secure are mainframes? | Trevor Eddolls > > W dniu 2019-05-27 o 17:45, Chad Rikansrud pisze: > > At the risk of re-kicking the already dead horse: Bill, you're > comparing apples and spiders. > > > > Are there fewer mainframe 'hacks'? Yep. There are also exponentially > fewer mainframes than Windows / Android / Mac / IOS / Linux. Like - a few > thousand mainframes compared to 2.5 BILLION users of > Windows/Linux/Mac/Android & IOS combined. That is somewhere between > 250,000 - 500,000x more installs of those OS's. And they are freely > available for literally anyone to poke at. > > > > What you're arguing "Because Windows gets hacked daily, and mainframes > are never in the news as have being hacked - means that mainframes are > more secure .. more 'hack-proof'" Is like saying that: > > > > -- Homes in Toronto are more hurricane-proof because fewer of them are > destroyed than in Key West. > > OR > > -- Babies are better drivers than their parents, because their parents > get in accidents every day. > > OR > > -- People in Greenland are less susceptible to cancer because fewer > people die of it than do in the US. > > > > For years people thought Macs were less susceptible to viruses than > their Windows counterparts... because? They never read about Mac hacks. > The reality? There were way fewer Macs. Now? Still much less > marketshare than Windows, but lots of Mac hacks/malware out there because > they have more than doubled their market share in 6-8 years. > > You criticize demagoguery using demagoguery. > It's not that mainframe were not hacked just because nobody tried. 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