>> Hire one of the pen testing firms like RSM or Vanguard. Report back here if 
>> they find no vulnerabilities. Tell me I'm wrong.

Agree with this 100%.

If you can catch Mark Wilson from RSM in bar, buy him some beers and he can 
tell you redacted stories about pen tests that he has done that will make your 
hair stand on end.

Rob Scott
Rocket Software.

-----Original Message-----
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List <IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU> On Behalf Of 
Charles Mills
Sent: Wednesday, May 8, 2019 2:26 AM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: mainframe hacking "success stories"?

I was travelling and I have kind of lost track of where this thread has gone. 
Let me throw three thoughts out there.

1. Our job is to make our platform -- and if you are at a customer, your site 
-- as secure as reasonably possible. Not "more secure than Windows." It is NOT 
like the joke about the two hunters being chased by a bear, one of whom says "I 
don't have to run faster than the bear; just faster than you."
You have to run faster than ALL the bears.

2. "Oh, but they got a userid and password from somewhere else." A userid and 
password is nothing. You know who has a userid and password? All of your users. 
Another name for your users is "insider threats."

3. You think your mainframe in darned near invulnerable? Put it to the test.
Hire one of the pen testing firms like RSM or Vanguard. Report back here if 
they find no vulnerabilities. Tell me I'm wrong.

Charles

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