Another reason for lot of focus on white/black hat focus on USS -- that's what 
most of the non-mainframe world is already familiar with, lower barrier to 
(unauthorized) entry to mainframe.
Don't know if any individual/team has/have  *started* their break-the-mainframe 
journey from core MVS...

– Vignesh
Mainframe Infrastructure

-----Original Message-----
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List <IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU> On Behalf Of 
Mohammad Khan
Sent: 07 May 2019 14:49
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: mainframe hacking "success stories"?

USS is definitely an integral part of z/OS so it's a legitimate mainframe hack. 
However if more of the hacks are occurring via USS it does raise questions 
about its quality from security perspective compared to the "classic" MVS side 
of the mainframe. Buffer overruns are probably the most common exploits in the 
UNIX / C programming environment, did IBM just bring in all its problems as 
well when they implemented OMVS / USS?

MKK

On Mon, 6 May 2019 10:21:25 -0700, Charles Mills <charl...@mcn.org> wrote:

>#1: Noooooo. It was a legitimate mainframe hack (assuming you consider USS a 
>legitimate part of the mainframe, which it has been for 20 years or so). It 
>was an exploit of CGI buffer overrun.
>
>#2: It drives me nuts to hear mainframers explain away mainframe breaches. "It 
>wasn't really a mainframe hack, they got in through USS." "It wasn't really a 
>mainframe hack, they re-used a Windows password." "It wasn't really a 
>mainframe hack ... whatever." If your CEO was standing in front of the press 
>explaining how your company let x million credit card numbers go astray, would 
>it matter HOW they got into your mainframe, or only that they DID?" If your 
>mainframe is vulnerable to a USS hack, or a shared Windows password, or 
>whatever, you need to fix THAT, or risk having to explain to your CEO why he 
>got fired (like Target's) for letting all those credit card numbers go astray.
>
>Charles
>

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