If you're talking about security, then there is a big difference between what 
controls are available and what you deploy. 

> The robber got into a house through a window that was closed but not
> locked? 

That's a defective resident, not a defective window.

> IMHO /how/ access is acquired less important than the fact unauthorized
> access /was/ acquired.

If you're assessing the software then it's important to know whether the 
security breach was a software problem. If you're assessing the organization 
then it's important to know how unauthorized access was obtained in order to 
prevent it from happening again. If you're a judge or juror then it's important 
to know how access was obtained in order to decide how to assess liability. The 
only context in which how isn't paramount is for the people doing spin control.


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Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz
http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3

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Subject: Re: mainframe hacking "success stories"?

On 5/7/19 2:54 PM, Seymour J Metz wrote:
> RACF database unprotected? That's not a properly secured system,
> any more than one with default passwords is.

That can be said about MANY things, not just mainframes or open systems.

The robber got into a house through a window that was closed but not
locked?  "That's not a properly secured system."

IMHO /how/ access is acquired less important than the fact unauthorized
access /was/ acquired.



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Grant. . . .
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