Thanks for the thoughtful analysis. Our excessive caution stems from our being 
novices with PPRC and the fact that we're doing production this time. We did 
the DR site a while back knowing that any discrepancy could be overwritten by 
XRC mirroring. 

Most folks seem to think that we're being a little silly, which is actually 
reassuring. We have T's of volumes and a limited window.  I did get one 
off-list offer of a product that that sounds pretty great, but we may just suck 
it up pretend we're grownups.  😉  

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J.O.Skip Robinson
Southern California Edison Company
Electric Dragon Team Paddler 
SHARE MVS Program Co-Manager
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Indeed, such tool is usually not needed, it is enough to know the copy service 
ended with RC=0. It can be FlashCopy, TF/Clone, SRDF, PPRC, XRC, Shadowimage.
One see the job finished with not errors so he's pretty sure that source and 
target volumes are the same.

However let's assume the copy was performed week ago, by Frankie. And Frankie 
is out of office. How can we be sure volume A has exactly the same content as 
volume B? There several ways:
a) use some tool which Jesse asked about (however I don't know any).
b) perform the copy again just to create new copy. Sounds overkill, but the 
tool above would generate at least the same I/O.
c) create dump of both volumes and compare them i.e. using some hash function. 
Even more I/O and CPU cycles. The advantage is the volumes can be online to 
different system (local and remote) and each of them compute its own hash for 
comparison. At the time of verification no connectivity between local and 
remote DASD is required.


My €0.02

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Radoslaw Skorupka
Lodz, Poland







W dniu 2019-04-23 o 22:13, Laurence Chiu pisze:
> We are about to replace our DS8870 in the DR site with a new DS8886. This
> is currently in a Metro Mirror relationship with production. We will copy
> from the old SAN to the new SAN using Global Copy and then start a Metro
> Mirror session from the production SAN to the new SAN. This is all using
> Copy Services Manager. I must admit nobody has ever considered having to do
> a track compare following the copy since that means you don't think any of
> the copy services manager copy products have sufficient checking in them.
>
> This is especially true when we regularly flash copy from our production
> copy to a third copy and IPL our host from them.
>
> On Tue, Apr 23, 2019, 11:52 AM Jesse 1 Robinson <jesse1.robin...@sce.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Sorry for not taking the time to search the archives for this. We're
>> shortly moving from one DS8 DASD subsystem to another via global mirroring
>> (PPRC). We have the process worked out, but we're looking for the quickest
>> possible way to verify that the copy of a volume is identical to the
>> original. Systems will be down for the duration, so a utility that will
>> simply compare two volumes-for example track by track-in the shortest
>> elapsed time will win. On account of systems being down.
>>
>> Of course the deadline is looming. TIA.
>>
>> .
>> .
>> J.O.Skip Robinson
>> Southern California Edison Company
>> Electric Dragon Team Paddler
>> SHARE MVS Program Co-Manager
>> 323-715-0595 Mobile
>> 626-543-6132 Office <===== NEW
>> robin...@sce.com<mailto:robin...@sce.com>


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