Choose option 4 to show the fields and you go thru the list of columns using "enter".
Once all columns have been shown, the next panel is the "Additional Information" menu that I mentioned. Also - some of the field names in the short field help are enabled for point-and-shoot for more information. Rob Scott -----Original Message----- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List <IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU> On Behalf Of Carmen Vitullo Sent: Tuesday, March 5, 2019 1:25 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: CPU time and zIIP I don't see the same HELP as you Rob, HELP or PF1 in DA panel gets me here Select a topic by number, or press Enter to view them in sequence. 1 - Introduction to the DA panel 2 - Syntax of the DA command 3 - Action characters: display output, cancel jobs, etc. 4 - Fields on the DA panel 5 - Overtyping fields to change their values 6 - Commands: limit jobs displayed, search, etc. These topics are displayed only if selected: 97 - What's new 98 - Search and navigate the help 99 - Messages for me, it's not a big deal, I can get the RMF/SMF data I need to get a good picture, somewhat historical, but I can get it. Carmen Vitullo ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rob Scott" <rsc...@rocketsoftware.com> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Sent: Tuesday, March 5, 2019 4:39:14 AM Subject: Re: CPU time and zIIP Under the help section of the "DA" command, after the brief descriptions of the columns, there is an appendix section for detailed information on certain sections. It looks something like this : For more information, select a topic by number: 1 - Address space positions 2 - Swap out reason codes 3 - Server values 4 - Displaying alternate fields 5 - Changing the colors of fields 6 - Changing the order of fields 7 - CPU and SIO fields 8 - Scaling and abbreviations for values Choosing option 7, leads to several help panels describing in detail where SDSF sources the information and the calculations involved in showing the data, for example : CPU-Time and ECPU-Time columns: SDSF obtains the values for these columns from RMF, as follows: CPU-Time = ASCBEJST + ASCBSRBT + ASSBASST (source field R791TCPU) ECPU-Time = ASCBEJST + ASCBSRBT + ASSBPHTM (source field R791TCPC) where: ASCBEJST is elapsed job step time ASCBSRBT is accumulated SRB time ASSBASST is the CPU time consumed by preemptible class SRBs running on behalf of this address space, in milliseconds ASSBPHTM is the CPU time consumed by preemptible class SRBs running in this address space, in milliseconds (threads plus enclaves) GCP-Time, zAAP-Time and zACP-Time are not normalized. SDSF obtains the values for these columns from RMF: GCP-Time source field is R791TCPU zAAP-Time source field is R791TIFA zACP-Time source field is R791TIFC zAAP-NTime is normalized to the slower CP, to facilitate comparing values. The normalization uses fields from RMF, as follows: R791TIFA x R791NFFI ------------------- 256 ..etc etc Rob Scott Rocket Software -----Original Message----- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List <IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU> On Behalf Of Seymour J Metz Sent: Monday, March 4, 2019 5:10 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: CPU time and zIIP The last time that I looked SDSF did not document the actual meanings of all of the fields that it displayed. A lot of these discussions could go away if IBM spelled out the in SDSF documentation the actual meaning of each "CPU" field instead of using ambiguous boilerplate language. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz https://nam01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http:%2F%2Fmason.gmu.edu%2F~smetz3&data=02%7C01%7CRScott%40ROCKETSOFTWARE.COM%7C9742b37cf34f48ed751108d6a16df68f%7C79544c1eed224879a082b67a9a672aae%7C0%7C0%7C636873891015867170&sdata=Ai0Sh6AHgWFIhfyfNAR7m4gPqPlfntm4pua%2BbO2om%2Fs%3D&reserved=0 ________________________________________ From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List <IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU> on behalf of Carmen Vitullo <cvitu...@hughes.net> Sent: Monday, March 4, 2019 9:10 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: CPU time and zIIP bad assumption on my part that SDSF show's CPU and zIIP percent for each address space zAAP-Time zACP-Time GCP-Use% zAAP-Use% SzAAP% SzIIP% P Carmen Vitullo ----- Original Message ----- From: "Carmen Vitullo" <cvitu...@hughes.net> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Sent: Friday, March 1, 2019 7:28:54 AM Subject: Re: CPU time and zIIP Carmen Vitullo ----- Original Message ----- From: "Peter Relson" <rel...@us.ibm.com> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Sent: Friday, March 1, 2019 7:15:51 AM Subject: Re: CPU time and zIIP I'm obviously still not understanding what you think is amiss. adding up the Gcpu time and Ziip time, to show all CP TIME but seeing that I misread, misunderstood the doc and your previous responses and from the statement below....as Gilda Radner would say....nevermind :( <snip> for me I'd like to see SDSF's CPUtime to include all time, GCPU+IIP </snip> We have already said that it does. 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