Greg -
/dev/random use does require ICSF to be started,  but is it affected
(improved) by the presence of a crypto card?   That was not my
understanding, but I could be wrong.

On Tue, Jan 22, 2019 at 7:27 AM Greg Boyd <gregb...@mainframecrypto.com>
wrote:

> There may have been changes to Connect Direct since the last time I worked
> with it, but I suspect ICSF is required if you want to leverage the
> hardware technology, and specifically the CEX cards.  As Kirk points out,
> if you want to use the random number generation on hardware then you need
> ICSF active. (And you probably do want the performance of RNG in
> hardware.)  Similarly, for System SSL, if you want to use the Crypto
> Express cards for authentication (public/private key operations), then ICSF
> needs to be active.  Enabling the cards and having ICSF active can make a
> big difference in throughput and capacity (CPU savings), but strictly
> speaking it's probably not required unless you configure the environment to
> use the crypto hardware.
>
> Greg Boyd
> Mainframe Crypto
> www.mainframecrypto.com
>
>
> On Fri, 18 Jan 2019 17:55:51 -0600, Steve beaver <st...@stevebeaver.com>
> wrote:
>
> >Also it’s required for Connect Direct
> >
> >Sent from my iPhone
> >
> >Sorry for the finger checks
> >
> >> On Jan 18, 2019, at 17:29, Kirk Wolf <k...@wolf-associates.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> ICSF is currently required if you want to use the Unix /dev/random and
> >> /dev/urandom devices.
> >> These might be required by Unix apps (or jobs/stcs that use z/OS Unix
> >> System services).
> >>
> >> For exampe:  IBM OpenSSH server will not work without ICSF and
> /dev/random
> >> available.
> >>
> >> On Fri, Jan 18, 2019 at 5:24 PM Greg Boyd <gregb...@mainframecrypto.com
> >
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>> ICSF is only required if you want to use the ICSF APIs, so it depends
> on
> >>> what, if anything in your shop might be using the APIs.  System SSL
> (TLS)
> >>> will certainly leverage the APIs if you have Crypto Express cards
> available
> >>> and that might provide some CPU relief.  The Guardium Database
> Encryption
> >>> Tool requires it if you want to encrypt IMS segments or DB2 tables at
> the
> >>> row level.
> >>>
> >>> Pervasive is getting a lot of attention and if you're going that
> route, I
> >>> would highly recommend that ICSF be active everywhere.  You don't want
> one
> >>> system writing ciphertext to a file and another system thinking that
> the
> >>> file is cleartext.  IBM is also recommending that ICSF be 'always up'.
> >>> They have made a number of changes to the component so that it will
> come up
> >>> earlier in the IPL and it should be one of the last tasks running.
> >>>
> >>> Given the growth in crypto workload, I take 'always up' to also mean
> >>> 'running everywhere'.  There are simply more things that can leverage
> ICSF,
> >>> some optionally and some require it.
> >>>
> >>> I'm not sure why DFSMShsm would need ICSF active, unless they were
> using
> >>> the Encryption Facility for z/OS with the DFSMSdss feature.
> >>>
> >>> Greg Boyd
> >>> Mainframe Crypto
> >>> www.mainframecrypto.com
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Fri, 18 Jan 2019 18:16:37 +0000, Mary Kay Tubello <
> mtube...@humana.com>
> >>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Hello all,
> >>>>
> >>>> Does anyone know if z/os 2.3 requires ICSF to be installed on each
> LPAR?
> >>>>
> >>>> Thanks,
> >>>> Mary Kay
> >>>>
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