Seems to me that region size is more of a relic for when we were severely 
constrained on real memory.  =0M works for me

Matt Hogstrom
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> On Jan 8, 2019, at 14:18, Carmen Vitullo <cvitu...@hughes.net> wrote:
> 
> A good point, I myself have overlooked STC's region size because it's never 
> been a problem, I see some tasks never updated for 10+ years and still have 
> very small regions sizes. 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Carmen Vitullo 
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
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> From: "Jesse 1 Robinson" <jesse1.robin...@sce.com> 
> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU 
> Sent: Tuesday, January 8, 2019 1:13:14 PM 
> Subject: Re: Generic query on Region allocation failure 
> 
> This post is not intended to be enlightening; it's merely corroborative. We 
> recently went from z12EC to z14. We had already upgraded to z/OS 2.3 with 
> hardware support service. In the week or so afterwards, we experienced a 
> handful of 'storage shortage abends' in tasks that had been running unchanged 
> for years. AFAIK no technical explanations ever came forth. In the few PMRs 
> we opened, the advice was to increase region size. We did. Problems went 
> away. Move on. 
> 
> I do have one piece of advice. Never specify a smallish region size. If it's 
> worth your time and effort to type in any region size at all, go for some 
> number >16M. It generally costs nothing and may save some debugging grief 
> down the road. I've seen cases where 0M may be required for a particular 
> product. Again, the cost of doing so is minimal. Why quibble? Someone needs 
> to refresh the communal coffee pot. 
> 
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> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On 
> Behalf Of Tom Marchant 
> Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2019 7:49 AM 
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> Subject: (External):Re: Generic query on Region allocation failure 
> 
>> On Tue, 8 Jan 2019 10:16:00 +0400, Jake Anderson wrote: 
>> 
>> IEF085I REGION NOT AVAILABLE ERROR CODE = 20 IEF187I NNNNNJJJ FAILED - 
>> SYSTEM ERROR IN INITIATOR IEF472I NNNNNJJJ 
> 
> That means that the region that was specified is not available. 
> 
> Most likely, the region specified is less than 16M and that much storage is 
> not available below the line. It is certainly possible that the available 
> region size below the line is smaller on your old system than is available on 
> your new system. 
> 
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> Tom Marchant 
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