I would have loved to see an enhanced SNA with internetworking and DNS, but when CCITT refused to look at it, that wasn't an option.
If the major TCP-based protocols at least switched to SCTP, that would be an improvement. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 ________________________________________ From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List <IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU> on behalf of scott Ford <idfli...@gmail.com> Sent: Friday, January 4, 2019 3:54 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Network names (was: System Symbols) Seymour, In many ways I preferred the SNA architecture over TCPIP. But i have a bias since i did SNA work for many years and knew it very well. Scott On Wed, Jan 2, 2019 at 1:05 PM Seymour J Metz <sme...@gmu.edu> wrote: > Well, at one time I expected > https://secure-web.cisco.com/15S1_7uTrcZDgxH9h8-UPc3PMm1gUp3uUiPLZih5Z97no5NNEwonmUl7n8cotd3SfVPcUUGvzVIdaU1fzKnYHpfN1rQ3DKOYMzkt5kUXq7n2Qd-ia777PIng2wAajNH0ui0m-P0t4WWQrrv2MA4-FFvcLkKHbT8qaY1jH3ayeqfAh-koF_9h3b_Sk9n2Ucow_jtOiKJAjM8AbiNC4tijERSNQoablSMxz8fgs1Inh-iah4y9mNjwcKp0Z65s0ROpL-ot_IlNGxe_xgtlceEfdsEGcKvK3p4JI-y73vUZVfKBGkkY5eKUeYEUYVEZ8mwLP0NSfvd7xIb3ryTgszFcA885XHKIRbFgOSZjgWGwXwYvnCvGQOCQ3p3NcaCHswXy44YT1AnoWEeHrdw3U7kqeMPr3ArfCgXeDxXjjzIXZShLkbLeI1BoRCI7TIMbXnbiF/https%3A%2F%2Fen.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FGovernment_Open_Systems_Interconnection_Profile > (GOSIP) to displace SNA, but the Feds went TCP/IP despite the mandate and > that was all she wrote. > > > -- > Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz > http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 > > ________________________________________ > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List <IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU> on behalf > of Paul Gilmartin <0000000433f07816-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> > Sent: Monday, December 31, 2018 4:19 PM > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Subject: Network names (was: System Symbols) > > On Mon, 31 Dec 2018 16:00:02 -0500, Tony Harminc wrote: > > > >In the mid 1990s, when SNA interconnection between enterprises was at its > >peak, IBM had an SNA network name registry. (For all I know they may still > >have it.) Names were of the form <two letter ISO country code><three > >character customer code>, so e.g. IBM itself was USIBM (and CAIBM or > >whatever you were connecting to). I wonder if USCAD was ever registered... > > > Sounds like a tiny step in the direction of a DNS. I've long wondered > whether > a robust DNS would have enabled SNA to compete better with TCP/IP. > > Or was price a determining factor? > > Was EBCDIC vs. ASCII ever a concern? > > -- gil > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN > -- *IDMWORKS * Scott Ford z/OS Dev. “By elevating a friend or Collegue you elevate yourself, by demeaning a friend or collegue you demean yourself” http://secure-web.cisco.com/1Q3ZoGYjDLkkrUWnegIqX7G3niG9HVtDHRrBEHPjvrH8xdh9tiyCQUdaLZusluclTGX85YIRQnBuJgTtN69vpo_LxFzMik7d-U73zAOpJ6RUnasGJWqfpOJmb4YUQsrsJ09Q8HNzL_abk9THrl1EJ_n8v3KLDPQWW48n1u8gvHurRO4M2L_ec2S9K3RZyoWOMvXTNsmA7N2TGzFOwRPZM6OLoDvr1jwB4B2BAb1frrM7UHVOthL1NrNe-Z38uivc0sCtdOXi_exzACXBCakI7NRcV6jTEKQ6VydFLVPdvS8Z9IhvaCj9tIYWYE79pKXIJNYrMB9XNj0oSRmNeTHZYNPHgNG6CpXCFTNFNZIwQg0K2OapDVSUPntMSZgF6tBKTGUtvf5l9pUBptK8BRUmTeCldWZtOzSE69MXVA4CpmaZTHaqDI0TwETsz5Ob92Qqr/http%3A%2F%2Fwww.idmworks.com scott.f...@idmworks.com Blog: http://secure-web.cisco.com/1mDkVzGYbkl3SmEz02dnvlaIo3Yp89ik_rcg9Z1JPgQ_OBOllMbIRBWfyHWiR_l1_012zxK6_YDo1zHt0sdGKhTFE-xjn1RM1HcDmddOSAEYZMmCpPm-koy92WlKsVqkMhNK7Vp8R1aCI1ZxkvRCu5TvimOIpKauphMOACBwZiLr39f65EgvbHw070qrk5qZFDTO2Yt14MUDJKXElvTsc9i1wZEC1iHvkdPry04mYIZNuxrNocdgHZHHGuveuJOtdjjgp1xzsvcyVLXvy2-4tMHemHnsJfjLnnlXsFYcmxM-Wnc82w7mC5MDbkBGchIAZZBsLFo8VecaKv0W7O2gW0mAR-iDxjQmQpiRK5hkqFBl_Fr1e1N7zCVSYonWyOiXr8zQnLCC0E-jdcq17wi_1cxPHEn0M1MJ7Jj5brRh1kjTAoCIhSuNznPqsvfiNITfL/http%3A%2F%2Fwww.idmworks.com%2Fblog *The information contained in this email message and any attachment may be privileged, confidential, proprietary or otherwise protected from disclosure. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution, copying or use of this message and any attachment is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please notify us immediately by replying to the message and permanently delete it from your computer and destroy any printout thereof.* ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
