Greetings,

   BTDT.  I'm old enough to need a bit of QUIET when trying to read a dump - 
nervermind having to do that while on the phone with a vendor.

   Might be applicable in a DevOps environment - which we do here - but it's 
nevertheless a distraction since I'm right next door...   😊

BobL

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You haven't lived until you have to talk to a vendor on the telephone while 
surrounded by other conversations. To be fair, they don't appreciate your 
reading out loud from the dump any more then you enjoy their chatter - which 
might also be with vendor support groups.

Dumbest of all time? I'm not sure. But dumb enough - no question.


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For those of you who find yourselves in this type of working environment.

https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__secure-2Dweb.cisco.com_1F4O7Jngr9Ip6KIwviFvSVIESyGORRnsgACKq0T9XEdiHfGeJmPbukhwhAS0BInhkpXD2YjG1TFrgfTGHi3F-2Dd96aaH1AJbzjaFoFe0QanBV-2DY50uvJ-2DsH1T2bP3nwrhhFZ8qAsZQuYmoZf8UucIHp0L59-5FGZQwA5e1PegPVVqX5ybkj5bfykFYzBr1GIyc7JxL8K9J8-2DvBW2OPaZ0nFB-5FWIHXaADIahBcNukyLqLrMNNRbkQEXemaT99CFBnI1x25KCiNh5fEuVQCU6xMQ9EYGBTCQAnCPQ7NKsA-5F3yXInXn1zQvP6BfG6ubix3adrSFH7s9RdOvaBlwsNth6c-2DKDSMq44E93ezA4UDj-2DZJorkIoFJo-5F4X5dw09LWAXJ96GG9Vpcih23-2DAJDJP-2Dd5LX2u9q83jr1JhbWWwZvSVTyn-5FklCi8NwncsKRtu0yi84PYv_https-253A-252F-252Fwww.inc.com-252Fgeoffrey-2Djames-252Fits-2Dofficial-2Dopen-2Dplan-2Doffices-2Dare-2Dnow-2Ddumbest-2Dmanagement-2Dfad-2Dof-2Dall-2Dtime.html&d=DwIFAw&c=huW-Z3760n7oNORvLCN2eBo-Ehm9Q_bNeNJaAMovBjQ&r=Qowhtqe2n9CP4j5cKgUfmAFB9ziwNIdru4NRZBXkzeA&m=DkmByddCguIVQsI92DkYAk1Nir0BtoZ0yaYVNX9Pa5M&s=SglYut1nf0UEAAr2YDYcb8qM9N5RGG7OUQB5mjOzOgA&e=

Mark T. Regan, K8MTR
CTO1, USNR-Retired
1969-1991

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