Thin interrupts were introduced as a performance booster for shared CF engines. 
However when we recently upgraded both CECs to z14 and z13, we discovered that 
we can no longer live with 'fat' interrupts. In a new CEC, thin interrupts must 
be enabled by CF command; there is no profile to carry over the old value to a 
new CEC. 

Thin interrupts come into play only when a CF engine is shared among multiple 
sysplexes, which we have done for years with Development and Sandbox. Without 
(re)enabling thin interrupts, we found our Sandbox plex to be unusable. By 
simply turning thin interrupts (back) on, Sandbox performance returned to very 
respectable. For dedicated engines, thin interrupts are not even an option. The 
enabling command will be rejected.

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Southern California Edison Company
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-----Original Message-----
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf 
Of Vernooij, Kees (ITOP NM) - KLM
Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2018 12:00 AM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: (External):Re: CFCC Performance

So do we, 2 CFs per Sysplex (you "cannot" run a production site with only 1).

I am a little confused about your questions:

System managed rebuild is standard and always active. This will rebuild 
structures in another CF in case of problems. It is transparent to the 
application, be it with some delays in structure availability during the 
rebuild.

Structure duplexing comes in 2 flavors: user-managed and system-managed. 
User-managed is done by the application, if it supports it, e.g. DB2. If not, 
you can use system-managed structure duplexing. This comes with some cost of 
inter-CF communication. We do not use it, because we don't have structures that 
require 101% availability.

Thin interrupts are an enhancement that only provides improvement and exists 
for several CPU generations, so it should be beyond doubt.

Kees.



> -----Original Message-----
> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] 
> On Behalf Of Mike Schwab
> Sent: 18 December, 2018 19:23
> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> Subject: Re: CFCC Performance
> 
> We had 4 CFs.  Two for the TestPlex and two for the Production Plex.
> 
> On Tue, Dec 18, 2018 at 10:37 AM Allan Staller <allan.stal...@hcl.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > I am in the process or reconfiguring from a Single CF to multiple 
> > CFs
> (per partition) to eliminate the single point of failure.
> > The subject of CFCC Thin Interrupts has been evaluated and will most
> likely be implemented.
> >
> > As part of this process the discussion of DUPLEX CF structure vs. 
> > use
> of SYSTEM MANAGED Rebuild has also come up.
> >
> > I have heard the use of duplexing has been deprecated in favor of
> system managed rebuild for performance reasons.
> > CFCC Thin Interrupts might offset some of the (alleged) performance
> penalty.
> >
> > Can anyone point me to any documentation or contacts on the subject?
> > Searches if IBM Techdocs, Redbooks, ResourceLink, etc. have produced
> very limited information. Most of which seem to be leaning in the 
> SYSTEM MANAGED Rebuild direction.

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