The SMP/E libraries may be gone - but are the dataset/members to 
create/populate  them still present ??

Chris Hoelscher
Technology Architect, Database Infrastructure Services
Technology Solution Services
Humana Inc.
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-----Original Message-----
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List <[email protected]> On Behalf Of 
Lizette Koehler
Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2018 10:58 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [IBM-MAIN] Kind of lame SMP/E question

For any product install, the SMPE Libraries are critical. I do not think you 
can just build an SMP/E environment without them

So you are saying all of the SMP/e environment for this product is gone.  Then 
the client may be in a bad place.

As stated, see if a friendly IBM Account manager can help.  But you cannot 
receive any maintenance without the CSI/TLIBs/DLIBs

The JCLIN would be critical for SMP/E to know what to do with the "parts"

Lizette


> -----Original Message-----
> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List <[email protected]> On 
> Behalf Of Jackson, Rob
> Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2018 5:03 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: Kind of lame SMP/E question
> 
> "Readily" and "relatively easy" will probably not apply here, so the 
> answers are not likely and nope.
> 
> You could dummy up a function/functions and receive the PTFs against 
> it/them, but that won't buy you much other than metadata.  Even in 
> IBM, things are packaged differently, but I would expect the sysmods 
> would be compacted.  To expand them, you would use GIMCPTS, and then 
> you could figure out how to use the necessary utilities to install 
> them--and pay attention to the order, of course.  Depending on the number of 
> sysmods, that could really be a hag.
> 
> Which product?  I'm very curious.  More appealing alternatives might 
> be to contact your ever-changing IBM rep, if you can figure out who it 
> is, or a VAR.  Or, someone on this list:  if they have it, and it's 
> current, then you might be able to get somewhere without violating any 
> license agreement:  CSI, etc./TLIBs/DLIBs . . . done.  I'd trust 
> something packaged up by someone else much more than something I 
> hacked together from raw sysmods, unless it were fewer than or equal to 
> approximately two.
> 
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List <[email protected]> On 
> Behalf Of Charles Mills
> Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2018 6:42 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Kind of lame SMP/E question
> 
> [External Email]
> 
> I have a client who is licensed for and has installed a particular IBM 
> software product on z/OS. The product is out of marketing but still in 
> service. They have all the actual product libraries but managed 
> apparently to delete the SMP/E datasets some time ago. They now need 
> to apply a set of PTFs but are of course unable to do so without the 
> SMP/E datasets. They cannot re- order the product because it is out of 
> marketing.
> 
> I am a self-confessed SMP/E ignoramus. Is there some way to readily 
> create a minimal SMP/E environment that would be "good enough"? Is 
> there a relatively easy way to apply PTFs outside of SMP/E? Yeah, I 
> know the questions are kind of lame, but I am outside of my comfort 
> zone here and trying to help someone solve a problem.
> 
> Thanks much,
> Charles
> 
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