SDSF primary command 'search ffps' brings up 7 hits. It gets past poor
usability but does not help when you aren't sure what you are looking for (ffps
not exactly the first thing that comes to mind for this).
...chris.
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From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List <IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU> On Behalf Of Rob
Scott
Sent: June-12-18 1:46 AM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: SDSF DA display in z/OS 2.3
"Enter = forward" takes you through the entire set of help for the first
section of the "SET" command and then reverts to panel ISFJCMO which shows :
4 - SET (part 1) Set SDSF options: ACTION, BROWSE, CKLIM,
CMODE, CONFIRM, CONMOD, CONSOLE, CSORT,
CURSOR, DATE, DELAY, DISPLAY, DUPDS
5 - SET (part 2) More SDSF options: FFPS, LANGUAGE, LOG,
MENU, PRTCCASA, ROWNUM, SCHARS, SCREEN,
SECTRACE, SHELF, TIMEOUT
The usability here is not ideal to say the least.
It also seems that "FFPS" is missing from the "What's new" ISPF help section as
well.
Please note that there is a "Setting fixed field point-and-shoot" section in
the SDSF for z/OS 2.3 User's Guide (on or around page 14).
Rob Scott
Rocket Software
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From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf
Of Jesse 1 Robinson
Sent: Monday, June 11, 2018 5:21 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: SDSF DA display in z/OS 2.3
In the scenario I described, there is no second Help screen. Despite the note
"Enter = Forward", <Enter> actually drills down on the Set options shown on the
first screen beginning with "HELP: SET ACTION Command".
I just want this unexpected change to be made as transparent as possible for
the unwitting user. I looked early on at the Help thread
1 - What's new
No mention of FFSP.
.
.
J.O.Skip Robinson
Southern California Edison Company
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-----Original Message-----
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf
Of Rob Scott
Sent: Monday, June 11, 2018 3:15 AM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: (External):Re: SDSF DA display in z/OS 2.3
SDSF 2.3 introduced the "point-and-shoot" ability for jobnames on panels such
as "DA" and "H" to act as if the user typed "?" in the NP column.
Historically when SDSF introduces new behaviour there is either a "SET" option
for the user or a custom property for the SDSF group that can be applied via
ISFPRMxx.
This behaviour was deemed to be very much an individual user choice, so "SET
FFPS" command was chosen as the mechanism to allow customization.
Note that this setting in saved in your ISPF profile dataset so you do not have
to select this every time you enter the product.
Note that "SET ?" is not a valid command, all the product is attempting to do
in response is show the first help panel for the SET command.
The help for FFPS is on the second help panel. SDSF is limited to 24 lines for
compatibility reasons.
Rob Scott
Rocket Software
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From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf
Of Jesse 1 Robinson
Sent: Friday, June 8, 2018 10:51 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: SDSF DA display in z/OS 2.3
Thanks for the pointers. I would never have guessed the cause. However, there
may still be reason for an SR: 'FFSP' does not show up everywhere in Help
panels. For example,
SET ?
PARM INVALID
<PF1>
HELP: SET Commands to Set Options
Select a SET command by number, or press Enter to view them in sequence.
1 - ACTION Action characters
2 - BROWSE Default browse action character
3 - CKLIM Number of checks to displayed on the history panel
4 - CMODE Communications mode for sysplex data
5 - CONFIRM Confirmation
6 - CONMOD Console name modification
7 - CONSOLE Extended console
8 - CSORT Cursor-based sort
9 - CURSOR Cursor placement
10 - DATE Date format
11 - DELAY Timeout value
12 - DISPLAY Display of values
13 - DUPDS Dislay [sic] duplicate SYSOUT data sets
FFSP is not listed here, although it does show up in other contexts. Also it's
a bit unusual for IBM to change default behavior without giving some mechanism
to set an installation default.
.
.
J.O.Skip Robinson
Southern California Edison Company
Electric Dragon Team Paddler
SHARE MVS Program Co-Manager
323-715-0595 Mobile
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-----Original Message-----
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf
Of Frank Swarbrick
Sent: Friday, June 08, 2018 1:30 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: (External):Re: SDSF DA display in z/OS 2.3
Interesting! Though I'm not sure I'm getting that exact behavior. I can place
my cursor on the JOBNAME and then press enter, and it will behave as if I had
placed ? in the NP field and pressed enter. But I can't tab to the job name.
It bypasses it and goes to the Ptry column.
Does anyone know how to activate "point and click" for Micro Focus Reflection
Workspace TN3270 emulator? If I point to the field and double click it simply
highlights (reverse video) the job name value.
Frank
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Sent: Friday, June 8, 2018 1:23 PM
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Subject: Re: SDSF DA display in z/OS 2.3
It is because JOBNAME is now a point and shoot field. Tab to it, and you get
the equivalent of ? next to it. Go up to Options, 3- Screen, 9 Change fixed
field point-and-shoot to OFF, and you get the old behavior.
_________________________________________________________________
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-----Original Message-----
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf
Of Jesse 1 Robinson
Sent: Friday, June 08, 2018 2:49 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: SDSF DA display in z/OS 2.3
For as long as I can remember, the SDSF DA display marks 'swapped in' tasks
with highlighting on all columns, including task name. In z/OS 2.3, we notice
that columns are highlighted *except for* task name. Cannot find any doc on
this change from 2.1. Worth an SR?
.
.
J.O.Skip Robinson
Southern California Edison Company
Electric Dragon Team Paddler
SHARE MVS Program Co-Manager
323-715-0595 Mobile
626-543-6132 Office <===== NEW
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