Thanks Timothy. It wouldn't be for PROD use. Strictly DB2 SQL testing on test data is what they are looking at right now. I'm fine with using IBM provided image, in fact that would be my preference, as I don't currently have to staff to build/maintain another separate config for all of this.
I'm not trying to be an obstructionist to this technology, just trying to get out front with what it would take to build/support. _________________________________________________________________ Dave Jousma Manager Mainframe Engineering, Assistant Vice President [email protected] 1830 East Paris, Grand Rapids, MIĀ 49546 MD RSCB2H p 616.653.8429 f 616.653.2717 -----Original Message----- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Timothy Sipples Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2018 10:05 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: IBM ZD&T **CAUTION EXTERNAL EMAIL** **DO NOT open attachments or click on links from unknown senders or unexpected emails** Dave Jousma wrote: >Maybe I'm making a mountain out of a molehill here and over >complicating things. Maybe. Probably. :-) >My architects keep pounding on me that they just want to use the IBM supplied >vanilla copy of the z/OS image, and the DB2 that comes with that. What's wrong with that? If they're going to try to run the bank's production workloads on ZD&TE, that's a nonstarter. But I assume that's not what they're trying to do, because.... >They just want a throwaway vanilla environment. I feel like they think >this is a simple "lets stand up a Linux or Windows" and let them play. And that's usually fine, even more than fine! If developers have better tools, they produce more, quicker, and with better quality. Everybody wins, including especially the bank's customers. Sure, there ought to be a *couple* basic rules. As a notable example, they ought not be using real customer data in their "throwaway" environments, which is really what your security software (CA Top Secret) is trying to protect. That would be contrary to the bank's and customers' security interests. But if there's no sensitive data to protect, rock on! Source code will still be stored and managed according to bank policies (and intellectual property enforcement), and you'll still test, hopefully better and faster. In addition (not in lieu of!), it'd be wise to look at how you provide mainframe services in much more of a self-service/walk-up/instant fashion. You can certainly do that. All of the ingredients are there, usually at no additional charge. For example, you can use the z/OS Management Facility to allow an authorized developer in a development LPAR to provision her own Db2 table with test data using a pre-built z/OSMF workflow, and without any involvement from system programmers, DBAs, etc. Just "I need a Db2 table today for my spur-of-the-moment mobile app idea," and she gets it, immediately, via self-service. When she's done, 6 hours later or whatever, that service is de-provisioned. Everybody wins, except perhaps the FinTech that's trying to beat the bank. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Timothy Sipples IT Architect Executive, Industry Solutions, IBM Z & LinuxONE, Multi-Geography E-Mail: [email protected] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [email protected] with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN **CAUTION EXTERNAL EMAIL** **DO NOT open attachments or click on links from unknown senders or unexpected emails** This e-mail transmission contains information that is confidential and may be privileged. It is intended only for the addressee(s) named above. If you receive this e-mail in error, please do not read, copy or disseminate it in any manner. If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution or use of the contents of this information is prohibited. Please reply to the message immediately by informing the sender that the message was misdirected. After replying, please erase it from your computer system. Your assistance in correcting this error is appreciated. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [email protected] with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
