On 3/27/18, 1:23 PM, "IBM Mainframe Discussion List on behalf of John Eells" 
<IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU on behalf of ee...@us.ibm.com> wrote:
> I'd quite forgotten about P370, in part because I don't know that it was 
> ever available external to IBM.  It might well have been what the AWS* 
> things were ogiginally written for, and if so, I stand (well, sit, at 
> the moment) corrected.

They were widely used in BITNET II by the major interconnect points in the US 
and overseas (Rice, Cornell, Princeton, CUNY, Weitzman Institute, etc.) mostly 
to offload CPU and spool space usage (a lot of them ran VM/HPO, VM TCPIP and 
RSCSv2 just for that purpose) and they could be run on cheap hardware that 
would run a long time on a standalone UPS. I encountered a number of the oil 
companies in Houston that had them. I still have the Rice one in my garage; 
haven't fired it up in a long time.  Maybe those came to the BITNET project via 
an internal source; don't remember, but they weren't that hard to get if you 
knew what to ask for. 

> It's not at all clear to me that it would 
> solve anything that is not already solved by retrieving the files from a 
> workstation file system (hard drive or DVD), either, and until someone 
> shows me how it would be, I don't know why I'd support the effort to do 
> it.  (And, as it happens, it's not actually trivial to implement it in 
> the software delivery process.)

I guess that's really the point -- as you know, AWSTAPE "volumes" are just 
that, a collection of files in a directory on a workstation filesystem plus a 
metadata file that specified the order of the files on the "tape". Writing a 
AWSTAPE image creates all the necessary metadata and packaging. You just have 
to pass the collection of files to the end user in some way, and that way is 
not media-specific if you have a care in how you do the metadata file.

What's elegant about the way AWSTAPE is implemented is that the idea is that 
the process of making a product available in that form is a matter of copying 
already existing distribution and service tapes created using an already 
existing process to an emulated tape device *once*, nothing in IBM or in the 
customer site has to change in any way other than adding the copy step and the 
process of delivering the resulting files to the customer. Principle of least 
change; the people creating the content don't have to learn anything new, and 
the people consuming the content don't have to do anything new. The effort to 
produce an AWSTAPE file becomes "mount the distribution tape you already 
created using the existing process and do a copy of the tape to a emulated 
device", no new tools or new programming required for most of the people 
affected; it's just one extra step to copy the distribution tape to an emulated 
tape "volume" and that step can be heavily automated. Once that copy is done, 
format no longer matters; how you get those files to the customer is a detail; 
whether they come on a DVD or over the Internet or by covered wagon, there 
doesn't have to be a difference in format or tooling, just delivery methods..


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