Is your upper management watching the movies "The Net" or "War Games" on a loop? Paranoid much?
Do the words "SECURE TRANSMISSION" mean anything to them? Consider that the world's wealth is running on IBM's z/OS operating systems. Virtually all of them get their OS upgrades electronically. But your company is "special"? <insert sarcastic smile> How many other posters on this forum have ever said "me too" to the paranoia expressed in your posts? -----Original Message----- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Edward Gould Sent: Monday, March 26, 2018 5:58 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Software Delivery on Tape to be Discontinued > On Mar 26, 2018, at 3:47 PM, Charles Mills <charl...@mcn.org> wrote: > > Goofiness. > > Why didn't they convert to Windows when IBM stopped distribution on > 9-track tape? Or when the 2540 card reader was discontinued? Or the 407? You are missing the point. It is called the INTERNET. They do not want *anything* that a. Came through the internet. b. Does not come via FEDEX(or UPS) from IBM with signatures/id card c. And 1 or two more things that I am not sure of. All tape must be delivered to the auditor and the department takes care of authenticating everything (not my responsibility nor authority to question) I have heard vague rumors of the AUDITOR calling someone at IBM to make sure that the package came from IBM (I cannot confirm this). I also heard that the company looked into having a armed carrier truck pick the tape up at IBM but again cannot confirm this. This company is beyond security conscious, I cannot explain it as the origins predate me by 20 or so years. I have tried to bridge this a couple of times and was told to shut up and don’t say anything again. > > If this is how your management makes business decisions I know what > should be replaced, and it's not z/OS. Management in a lot of areas is great and in others the stone age. The tape thing is stone age. I am sure we have a lot of overhead of people checking things like this out. Yes and it might be arcane but the company is thriving and management (at least mine) will not rock the boat. I am here as sort of advisor and I am not getting paid. If they want to be this way that is their decision not mine. I can’t even get a finger in to see what the decision process is in these types of matters. I tried one time to get a finger in and it was almost chopped off. This is fine with me, IBM as I suspected does not listen to its customers and really does not care. I have seen IBM go from a world class company to operating at the whims of people who have lost touch with its customers. I think the 43xx box was the death of IBM, thats my opinion. No longer can you talk to an IBM person directly unless you have a signed contract in hand and in the other hand a certified check. Ed > > https://www.someecards.com/usercards/viewcard/beauty-is-skin-deep-but- > stupid > -goes-right-to-the-bone-b1c28 > > Charles > > > -----Original Message----- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] > On Behalf Of Edward Gould > Sent: Monday, March 26, 2018 1:36 PM > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Subject: Re: Software Delivery on Tape to be Discontinued > >> On Mar 26, 2018, at 1:44 PM, Paul Gilmartin > <0000000433f07816-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: >> >> On Mon, 26 Mar 2018 13:33:23 -0500, Edward Gould wrote: >>>> >>>> "IBM plans to discontinue delivery of z/OS platform products and >>>> service > on magnetic tape on July 1, 2018. ..." >>> >>> Congratulations to IBM. This sounds the death nell for z/OS at this > install. >>> >> What will you do instead? Have you plans to convert to another supplier? >> How long will it take? Will you stumble along without support or > upgrades? >> Have you found a contractor who will convert optical media or network >> to tape for you? Is that acceptable to your security people and to >> IBM > OCC? >> >> -- gil > > Gil: > > Told my manager this AM, he called IBM. They said yes it will be > discontinued. > My manager called his VP. The VP started calling companies that will > be putting a bid in for conversion to Windows. > He has called 4 companies and they are coming in the next 3 weeks and > go over what is needed to convert everything off the MF to Windows. > The wiff of going poof is in the air. > Well its not like I am getting paid, I will be in full time retirement > and not being able to play in the sandbox anymore(: > Hope everybody is able to find jobs. > The only question now is timeframe. > I heard several people on the phone talking to their head hunters. > > Ed > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send > email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send > email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN