Strange, it doesn't describe ECPS:VSE or the transition from DOS/VS to DOS/VSE.


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Best regards

Mike


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Von: IBM Mainframe Discussion List <[email protected]> Im Auftrag von 
Bernd Oppolzer
Gesendet: 19 March, 2018 16:45
An: [email protected]
Betreff: Re: mainframe distribution

Am 19.03.2018 um 10:52 schrieb R.S.:
> W dniu 2018-03-19 o 06:24, ITschak Mugzach pisze:
>> I wonder if anyone (vendors, maybe) has an insight into the mainframe
>> market size:
>>
>>     - number of sites
>>     - vse vs zos
>>     - continental distribution
>>     - sectiors
>
> IBM?
> I'm pretty sure IBM is not wiling to share this information. Maybe
> some companies like Gartner have some view, but they would want money
> for that information.
>
> Small piece of info:
> Poland - 0,00 VSE installations. IMHO historically it was always 0.

There was one, when we helped to replace the ODRA machines at MPK Lodz (similar 
to British ICL machine,
George-3 operating system, IIRC)
with a VM 4381-12 running VM (DB2, Pascal) and VSE (CICS, DB2, COBOL) in the 
beginning of th 1990s. I was there two times,
1992 and 1994, to help with the installation and customization of the machine.

>
> Also, people say VSE is popular in UK and Germany.
>


Yes, indeed. VSE was IMO maintained to a large part in the Boeblingen lab, 
which is 10 km from where I live.

We had it at the Stuttgart public transportation company (SSB), which was the 
company which helped MPK (see above).
Stuttgart and Lodz are partner towns (jumelage in French, don't know the 
English expression).

Kind regards

Bernd

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