On Sat, 17 Mar 2018 16:29:29 +0000, David Boyes wrote:
>
>It wouldn't be a huge effort to create the necessary code to make the standard 
>interface to z/OS be a line-mode telnet session, creating a fullscreen 
>environment using curses on demand (it's easy to impose a structured line 
>discipline over a unstructured connection). Providing a utility and set of 
>system calls that could switch on and off 3270 emulation mode on a standard 
>character mode terminal would allow (borrow the 3270 emulation engine from 
>c3270 and build it into the shell application) existing code continue to run 
>as is, and evolve over time. Something like:
>
>set ROWS=43; export ROWS
>set COLS=132;export COLS
>termmode --type 3270 --model=arbsize    (support ROWSxCOLS screen size, or the 
>standard predefined 3270 sizes if no environment vars are present)
>XEDIT foo Bar a
>termmode --type nvt
>
There's c3270 (which I never got to work) and older flavors of tn3270 (which 
i've used)
The trick is to switch modes dynamically.

How about logging in on an emulated 3270, setting X11 DISPLAY back to your 
desktop
and starting Xterm under OMVS?  The trick would be to bootleg DISPLAY and Xauth
through the 3270 logon.  I recall that years ago, when security was more 
casual, I
could start Xterm from a batch job.

If, only, ISPF would consider operating from other than the logged-in terminal!

Long ago, there was ISPGUI (is there still?)  Sucked.  I once started an ISPGUI
from a batch job.  Ran into an impasse:  Couldn't reply to some message.  Went
to SR who said, "You need to reply to that from the 3270 you logged in with."
"I didn't log in with a 3270."  "WTF!  Impossible!  You must have logged in with
a 3270!"

IBM doesn't sympathize.  How about a dynamically resizable 3270 in an ISPF 
session!?
(XEDIT comes close: I can pull the plug on an XEDIT session and reconnect with 
a different
terminal geometry.  XEDIT dutifully repaints the screen to the new geometry.  
What about
ISPF?  ISPF people say, "Impossible!  NFW!"  No.  Just do a WSF Query, as XEDIT 
does, 
and redraw the display.  As it is, I get a recurrent "Terminal Input Error."  
Can't even get
to a READY prompt to LOGOFF.)

Long ago, there was SimWare.  (Are they still?  Who bought them?)  Ran in a VM 
service
machine and emulated a 3270 at the host.  A later release performed the 
emulation at
the desktop.  Slower; it transmitted the entire screen, not just modified data. 
 But at least
one co-worker preferred it that way: even though overall response took longer, 
he preferred
not to see the screen updating incrementally.

A co-worker once had nedit (X11) working under OMVS.  Has anyone got jedit 
working?

Forget Session Managers.  Why not simply support concurrent logins as any 
non-IBM OS
does?

-- gil

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