You would not need one for every programmer.  Perhaps one to take to a
customer site to demonstrate your software and one to host an
application for a development team.  If the applications are small
could hold several applications, until you hit a space limit or ram or
cpu causing slowdowns.

On Sat, Jan 13, 2018 at 1:01 PM, Farley, Peter x23353
<[email protected]> wrote:
> And according to this link from that page:
>
> https://www.ibm.com/us-en/marketplace/z-systems-development-test-environment
>
> "Develop and test mainframe applications on x86 hardware
> Starting at $4,920.00 USD per year"
>
> Still not hobbyist pricing, and still somewhat steep on a per-programmer 
> basis for a company to pay, and large development teams (100+) would make 
> that a relatively high-cost tool.
>
> I would presume that a good discount to that "list price" could be negotiated 
> by an organization with an existing substantial investment in real IBM iron 
> and software, but small organizations and hobbyists are still SOL.
>
> Peter
>
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> acrording to this page (
> https://developer.ibm.com/mainframe/2017/09/08/ibm-z-systems-development-test-environment-zdt-v11-available/)
> this is same as zPDT. We use zPDT top develop out IronSphere ISCM for
> legacy platform, but zPDT, afaik, is for members of the partner in
> development program. It look like zd&t is for everyone.
>
> ITschak
>
> On Fri, Jan 12, 2018 at 8:02 PM, Jousma, David <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> If you are not aware, this is z/OS running on x86 for dev/test work.
>> Anyone doing this in the real world?   We've got architects in the
>> corporation that head about this, and want to discuss it.   I just don't
>> know enough about it to know if it's a big deal, or a breadbox with regards
>> to building and supporting.
>>
>> My concerns:
>> - are how to support
>> - is it an identical image of standard lpars on Z?
>> - security
>> - etc, etc, etc.
>>
>> I did a few searches on google looking for a past SHARE presentation for a
>> 10,000' view.    To my uneducated self, it sounds like an easy way for
>> management to defer mainframe cpu costs, but at a huge support cost.  Am I
>> wrong?
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