Well I can see some problems here 1 - You are talking about copy VOLUME, are the volumes shared between SYSA and SYSB? 2 - Any z/OS normally has one Master catalog and many user catalog as you have products or collection of datasets. 2- Master catalog only can have SYS1 and system dataset is not good to have products cataloged in master catalogs, use specific user catalog for any product. 3 - To catalog Master catalog with alternate you need to have all shared dasd if you are copying from one system to other it will not be good to use the other master catalog 4- If you just copy the volume with all product datasets and THEY are only PDS or sequential you can just re-catalog in the new SYSTEM you copy not need the other master catalog, but VSAM dataset you need to have more work to do this new re-catalog. 5- The best way to have products and all datasets accessible to any system is to put in a USERCATALOG for that product using ALIAS and you just need to share the volumes where the product dataset and connect only that usercatalog in any system you want in this case you don't need to worry about VSAM or PDS datasets 6- As a sample suppose that your product datasets has name like PROD1....... and you have an Alias in SYSA that point to a user catalog (not Master catalog) CAT1 where you have all datasets and the datasets are in the same volume that you create this user catalog you just need to share the volume on SYSB and IMPORT CONNECT this CAT1 with an alias PROD1 and you can access all datasets 7- The best approach for a Master catalog is have the system dataset also SYS1 and many user catalogs using ALIAS to point to each one.
Giovanni System Programmer -----Original Message----- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of johnnydeep san Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2017 02:27 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: How to use master catalog as user catalog in another system Thanks, Tom and Lizette for your quick response . Lizette, I'm trying this in sanbox where i will going to run my product which was installed already in SYSA , i would like to use all the product dataset's in SYSB for testing .I alredy transferred VOLUME(contain all product dataset) to sysB . though i have volume i'm not able to fetch the dataset since they are not cataloged. So i thought of going alternate master catalog . + JD + On Wed, Nov 29, 2017 at 8:41 AM, Lizette Koehler <stars...@mindspring.com> wrote: > What problem are you trying to solve? > > Creating an alt master cat and importing it to a new system may only > fix some of your issues. > > Consider the master catalog like the ROOT in Unix. It controls where > things can be found in z/OS. It is the key to the IPL Process. If > anything is not correct in the MCAT then an IPL may not work. > > > There is a manual on working with catalogs. And if this is not a > sandbox > - that is - if this system cannot take outages if there are issues you > should take care there could be challenges by doing this. > > It helps if you have a system programmer sandbox when working with > catalogs. This is an environment where if things get broken, there is > not impact to other work going on in the shop. > > > If there are issues with your catalog, you may need to IPL or other > activities to fix it. For example - catalog recovery processes > > If you are not the system programmer, you should contact the one at > your shop. They can help you with your activities and reduce > potential problems. This list does not know your shop or your > configuration. It can only provide guidance based on information > provided. You system programmer can be better at helping you with these > types of questions. > > When you import the master cat from another system, you cannot not see > all of the datasets. Anything currently cataloged on the new system > in the MasterCat may not be seen. > > If you want datasets that are in the MCAT on SYSA on SYSB and you want > are > SYS1.** datasets, then you may not see them on SYSB. > > A catalog is a tree structure. MCAT entries over ride UCAT (user > catalog) entries. > > IMPORT CONNECT does - > > https://www.ibm.com/support/knowledgecenter/en/SSLTBW_2.1. > 0/com.ibm.zos.v2r1.idai200/toc.htm > > The IMPORT command moves or restores a cluster or alternate index, or > restores a catalog. Import a Catalog: Example 2 > > https://www.ibm.com/support/knowledgecenter/en/SSLTBW_2.1. > 0/com.ibm.zos.v2r1.idai200/imicf.htm > > In this example, a catalog, USERCAT4, that was previously exported, is > imported. (See the EXPORT example, Export a Catalog: Example 1.) The > original copy of USERCAT4 is replaced with the imported copy, from the > portable file copy in CATBACK. Access method services finds and > deletes the duplicate name, USERCAT4. Any aliases in the master > catalog for USERCAT4 are preserved. (A duplicate name exists because > the catalog was exported with the TEMPORARY attribute.) Access method > services then redefines USERCAT4, using the catalog information from the > portable file, CATBACK. > USERCAT4 is locked to prevent access to anyone except authorized > recovery personnel. > > Another search for CONNECT MASTER CATALOG in www.ibm.com produces > many hits > > https://www.ibm.com/support/knowledgecenter/en/SSLTBW_2.1. > 0/com.ibm.zos.v2r1.e0zb100/migrtas.htm > > Migrating to another system section in z/OS Planning manual. This > section only lists actions you need to take to move a copy of software > from one system to another. It does not list the actions needed to > install and migrate new levels of software. For that information, see > other documentation such as z/OS Migration. > > > > > I went to www.ibm.com and searched on CATALOG MASTERCAT > > http://www-01.ibm.com/support/docview.wss?crawler=1&uid=isg3T1019473 > > http://www-01.ibm.com/support/docview.wss?uid=isg1II13354 > > And many other hits. > > I went to > http://www.redbooks.ibm.com/redbooks.nsf/searchsite?SearchView > > And searched on CATALOG in the REDBOOK site on IBM. > > Many hits that will be helpful > > http://www.redbooks.ibm.com/abstracts/sg248262.html?Open > > http://www.redbooks.ibm.com/abstracts/redp4212.html?Open > > http://www.redbooks.ibm.com/abstracts/sg246983.html?Open ** There > are a series of Redbooks called ABC and ABCs and they explain a lot of > the functions in z/OS and how to work with them > > http://www.redbooks.ibm.com/abstracts/sg246105.html?Open > > > > There are many more. > > Lizette > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List > > [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of johnnydeep san > > Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2017 5:16 AM > > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > > Subject: How to use master catalog as user catalog in another system > > > > Hi Team, > > > > As a newbie for mainframe, i may ask simple question but i couldn't > > track right answer in google :) . > > > > > > I have create alternate master catalog on volume ALTVOL1 on SYSA. > > Please guide me , how to use this alternate master catalog of SYSA > > as a > usercatalog > > in another system SYSB? . since both are different system , Will > > import catalog works ?. > > > > > > + JD + > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send > email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
