Yes, Jesse, it was exactly this excerpt you quote which inspired my post.

It is very vague wrt ESTBYTE, whether it applies just to batch and APPC or
also STCs.

Are the internal JES2 limits it cites set just for TSO XMITs or do they
apply also to STCs in lieu of the ESTBYTE parm.

If so, it would be nice to have an option like the OPT=0,1,2 ESTBYTE
subparm when the limit is triggered than to have to install the JES2 EXIT
20 just to cancel the task.

Just wondering if anyone has been able to get ESTBYTE working for STCs and
not just batch, APPC, and would not want to fill the spool and hang the MAS
just to find out.


On Fri, Jun 9, 2017 at 12:03 AM, Jesse 1 Robinson <jesse1.robin...@sce.com>
wrote:

> We have experienced a number of spool-full conditions in the recent past,
> always caused by runaway batch jobs that produce tens of millions of lines
> of garbage until the entire MAS grinds to a halt. So we're experimenting
> with JES2-defined limits. In researching the options, we came across the
> doc below. We're focused on batch, but this passage may be telling. If only
> we could understand it. May you be granted more insight that us.
>
> "Considerations for started tasks and TSO LOGONs
>
> "Output limits for TSO/E transmits can be set by TSO/E using the
>  TSO/E OUTLIM= parameter. JES2 also sets a limit internally. When
>  SYSOUT is transmitted in the foreground for started tasks and TSO/E
>  LOGONs, the member uses the lower of these two limits. JES2 sets the
>  following output limits for started tasks and TSO LOGONs:
>
> "999,999 for lines, cards, and pages
> 2,147,483 (in 1000s of bytes) for spool utilization.
> An installation can change the limits for started tasks or TSO
>  LOGONs by using JES2 Exit 20 to change the limit for each particular
>  started task or TSO LOGONs The limit for TSO/E transmits which are
>  specified thorough the OUTLIM parameter, should not be greater than
>  the limit JES2 sets for punches or a X'722' abend will occur.
>  See z/OS TSO/E Customization for information about limiting the
>  TSO/E TRANSMIT
>  command."
>
> .
> .
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>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On
> Behalf Of Lizette Koehler
> Sent: Thursday, June 08, 2017 4:09 PM
> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> Subject: (External):Re: Does the JES2 ESTBYTE parm limit STC or just batch
> output?
>
> The EST Byte, Line, Page can be dynamically changed.
>
> The simplest way to avoid an IPL (and JES2 just stops when spool is full -
> but will respond to commands like PURGE)
>
> Is to cycle the STC, add another spool volume, or see what is really going
> on.
>
> If the STC is filling up spool, it needs to be determined why.  We have
> automated the HASP050 / HASP375 message to send emails and alerts when some
> of the JES2 functions are impacted (BERT, SPOOL, JNUM, etc.)
>
> My understanding is the IEFUSO exit can cancel an STC if it exceeds its
> limits.  You can code the STCCLASS statement in JES2 and allow the IEFUSO
> to do its job.
>
> You can also use automation tools to monitor for HASP375, HASP050 or other
>
> You can use products like z/OSEM or EASYEXIT (DTS Software) to control
> your jobs names (STC, TSU, or JOB) for determining final action.
>
> Lizette
>
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU]
> > On Behalf Of George Henke
> > Sent: Thursday, June 08, 2017 1:59 PM
> > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> > Subject: Does the JES2 ESTBYTE parm limit STC or just batch output?
> >
> > Just averted a near disaster, a mid-day IPL of 4 LPARs, with a STC
> > filling up the spool with 10B bytes of data because the ESTBYTE limit
> > was not turned on for termination, OPT=1.
> >
> > But would it have done anything anyway for a STC or does it just apply
> > to batch and APPC.
> >
> > The manual is silently ambiguous on this.
> >
> > If anyone has had success limiting STC output so, please let me know,
> > else it will probably be JES2 Exit 20.
> >
> > --
> > George Henke
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