[Default] On 20 May 2017 16:37:10 -0700, in bit.listserv.ibm-main
[email protected] (Anne & Lynn Wheeler) wrote:

>[email protected] (Mike Schwab) writes:
>> S/370 operating systems and Linux on System Z can be run on Hercules
>> on a small PC.
>
>max z196 config with 80 processors was rated at 50BIPS and went for
>$30M. Last published peak I/O benchmark was for z196 with 104 FICONs
>(running over 104 fibre channel) getting 2M IOPS.
>
>same z196 time-frame e5-2600v1 was 400-550BIPS (depending on model)
>... about 10 times max z196. Also in same time frame, native fibre
>channel was announced for e5-2600 claiming over million IOPS (for single
>fibre channel, two such fibre channel with more thruput than 104 FICON,
>FICON is heavy duty prototol running over fibre channel that drastically
>reduces native throughput).
>
>current max configured z13 is still around $30M and 100BIPS ...
>compared to e5-2600v4 around 1500BIPS (1.5TIPS, more than 10 times z13,
>not strictly "small").
>
>Before IBM got out of server business it had base list price for e5-2600
>as $1815 (a little over $3/BIPS, compared to z13 now around
>$300,000/BIPS). IBM also had a high-density rack holding something like
>64 blades ... would now be possibly 100,000BIPS in single rack.
>
>Large cloud operations claim they assemble their own blades for 1/3rd
>the price of brand named blades ... around $1/BIPS ...  possibly
>contributing to IBM selling off its server business.

Given these figures, why haven't emulation and various mainframe
replacement technologies completely decimated the market for z series?
What will really start the stampede?

Clark Morris
>
>typical cloud megadatacenter "server farm" will have several hundred
>thousand blades.
>
>recent posts mentioning e5-2600/mainframe comparisons
>http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017d.html#1 GREAT presentation on the history of 
>the mainframe
>http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017d.html#57 What are mainframes
>http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017d.html#58 Paging subsystems in the era of 
>bigass memory
>http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017d.html#88 Paging subsystems in the era of 
>bigass memory
>http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017e.html#10 WD ships 'world's largest' 12TB HGST 
>Ultrastar He12 Helium 7200 RPM Enterprise HDDs
>http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017e.html#94 Migration off Mainframe to other 
>platform

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