Tom - I'm in total agreement with you.  I never liked BookManager on Windows 
and I prefer PDF's as I don't need a network connection, I can place the one's 
I need on my iPad for easy access if my PC is down, and the advanced search to 
cross PDF boundaries is excellent.

It works so please don't break it.

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Lionel B. Dyck 
Mainframe Systems Programmer - TRA
Enterprise Operations (Station 200) (005OP6.3.10)
Information and Technology, IT Operations and Services

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From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf 
Of Tom Brennan
Sent: Thursday, April 27, 2017 11:30 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: Issue with SK4T-4949-13 - IBM Online Library: z/OS V2R2 
Collection, March 2017

A year or more ago I went looking for the latest PDF documents for an Omegamon 
sub-product (Networks I think?) and couldn't find them.  I did find PDF's for 
the previous version so I sent an email to one of the authors and got a 
response:  There were no PDF's for the latest, only the web-based doc, and if I 
wanted a PDF I could click buttons on the web page to grab all the pages and 
put them into a PDF.  That ended up just like you said, a PDF of relatively 
unrelated snippets :)

Very odd, and I hope that isn't the way of the future.  To me, the online 
snippets are useful only if I get lucky and find what I need via search.  But 
once I'm reading a section, even with the KC next/prev page clicking (like the 
left/right arrows which don't seem to work all the time), I usually give up 
quickly and just go download something I can read - the PDF manual.

Plus, with the PDF (even if it's not completely up-to-date) I have information 
on my PC without needing an IP connection, which could be important in a pinch.

Now don't take me too seriously, since I may be a bit unusual because I never 
liked Bookmanager on my PC either, something people seem to like a lot here.

Dana Mitchell wrote:
> On Thu, 27 Apr 2017 07:31:11 +0200, Peter Hunkeler <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
>>Now, I B M  w i l l   y o u   p l e a s e,   p l e a s e  n o t   a b a n d o 
>>n   t h i s   "Download books in PDF format" support ever!!! KC has its place 
>>but will never be a replacement for PDFs to be read offline!
>>
> 
> 
> My biggest fear is that IBM will continue moving the z/OS documentation in 
> the direction it has taken with the IBM i docs in the past.   The main 
> content in the Knowledge Center consists of small, one or two paragraph 
> tidbits, filled with links to other items, making it almost impossible to 
> read in depth about a topic for a good overview.    Then the PDF version is 
> just the same little snippets from the KC, strung together into a pdf 
> document.
> 
> Dana
> 
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