We still have some customers on the MSP version of CA Disk. I'm not sure about VOS3. I remember the customer base being mostly in Japan and Asia, with some in Australia and one site in Spain.
Bob Longabaugh CA Technologies Storage Management -----Original Message----- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Vince Coen Sent: Friday, February 24, 2017 12:20 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: Fujitsu Mainframe Vs IBM mainframe Small correct for the info below : The operating System George (1, 2, 3 & 4) run on ICL 1900 series, 2903 & 4 ( as George 2 & 3). G1 was the original and was replaced with G2 - just as well as a bit of a dog but better than in native mode. George 4 was for very big installations and was rarely used (compared to installs with G3) in my experience but acted like G3. George 3 runs under emulation on Series 3900 (and the prior 2900 series) using DME only not VME which is a native O/S which was at least in the early days, written in Algol68R and yes I was just one of many programmers writing it !. Later versions that fixed bugs and more importantly speeded it up written in S3 while the compiler was improved. Algol68R - think a cross between C++ and C but more C. As far as I remember (so might be wrong) Poland used ICL 1900 series built under license as the 2900 series was being build and sold in the UK along with the small systems 2903/4. There was other small system that I was not involved with directly. The 2903/4 was a microcoded system that ran G2 mostly but I know I did run OS360 Dos type o/s's on it by changing the microcode in the evenings and W/E's when I had a need but mostly for my own requirements (I was the DP Manger) although cannot remember why. It took but minutes to change the microcode via mass storage device drive (dasd) or tape - can't remember which. This all in the mid 70's. Now the 30+ system still in use in the UK (other than the original painted Orange 2944 at Bletchley Park Computer Museum which is run at weekends) actually run under emulation over Linux based Server/blade system or systems not sure which. Yes I still have a complete manual set on CD (no engineering manuals) for the 3900 range that was up to date - ish 7 years ago but software has not been updated since other than at best some bug fixes but knowing Fujitsu a little, that is unlikely. At least they save on electricity as only use singe phase supply so can run one at home. Would like to get one if going free - - - Vince On 24/02/17 15:47, R.S. wrote: > W dniu 2017-02-24 o 15:14, Bernd Oppolzer pisze: >> Am 24.02.2017 um 14:37 schrieb R.S.: >>> W dniu 2017-02-23 o 20:09, Bill Woodger pisze: >>>> Also note that if you see a current job-ad for Fujitsu Mainframe >>>> skills in the UK, it will be for an ICL Mainframe, running VME, and >>>> being distinctly different from... anything from IBM. The COBOL is >>>> to the 1974 Standard (with Extensions, including COMP-5 which >>>> allows the definition of "bits"). >>>> >>>> Various parts of "the government" have huge projects at the moment >>>> converting their old ICL systems to Microfocus COBOL on "servers". >>> >>> It was very popular in Poland, because our government bought a >>> license for ICL machines and OS. Indeed, it wasn't even similar to >>> IBM family. The system name was GEORGE (GEORGE3), polish name of the >>> machine was ODRA (this is name of second largest polish river, which >>> crosesse Wrocław - a city where ODRA were built). >>> I think the last ODRA's were in use approx. 10 years ago in a railways. >>> >>> Some years later there were also ODRA emulator working under VM on >>> IBM hardware. I met it approx 18-20 years ago. People claimed the >>> emulator was over 10 times faster than real machine. The emulator >>> ran on 6 MIPS 4381. >>> >> >> There was a report generator on ODRA called TABU, >> somehow similar to RPG, but more elegant IMO. >> >> I wrote a Pascal program for MPK Lodz (in 1991) to convert their >> TABU reports to COBOL programs, because they replaced their >> ODRA machine with a 4381 VM machine; but because they >> had so much TABU reports, there had to be a solution for this. >> >> I also heard that the ODRA simulator was very successful; >> MPK also sold computer time on ODRA to third parties, and >> they charged for ODRA time, but in fact they ran the batch programs >> on the VM based ODRA simulator, so they got more money in less time. >> >> There were also stories that they managed to build an interface for >> a very large old Russian tape device and attach it to the 4381 somehow. >> >> BTW: the Odra river marks the frontier to Germany, too, >> the German name is "Oder". > > > Bernd, > MPK is the installation I mentioned. > (BTW: MPK is public transportation company, trams and buses) > They replaced 4381 with P/390. > > And yes, Odra (Oder) is border river, upper part of it is also Czech. > -- - IMPORTANT – This email and the information in it may be confidential, legally privileged and/or protected by law. 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