Ah! What you say makes perfect sense. I should have known.

I suspect you've got a problem, however. There's a saying in sales "when you
explain, you lose." I can hear auditors saying "SHA-1 -- no good -- security
exposure" and I would not want to be the one explaining what you say below
to them.

Perhaps I underestimate IT auditors. I just know the "buzzword kneejerk"
problem.

Charles

-----Original Message-----
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[email protected]] On
Behalf Of John Eells
Sent: Monday, May 16, 2016 4:06 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: smp/e sha-2 support?

Dyck, Lionel B. , TRA wrote:
> We asked IBM support about implementing SHA2 for the SMP/E FTP download
process and was told to open an RFE. That seems kinda insane given that
SHA-1 seems to be heading to the heap of obsolete technologies.
>
> Can anyone shed any light on this?  Opening an RFE seems absurd given that
this is an industry standard for security that we are being forced into as I
type this and I'm sure we're not the only IBM customer who will be impacted
by the lack of SHA2 support.
>
<snip>

We understand the NIST recommendation to move off SHA-1 for security-related
purposes.  However, our use of SHA-1 in this context has nothing to do with
security, and as far as I know it was never intended to provide any.  We are
using SHA-1 just to be reasonably sure that what we send over the wire is
what you get from a data integrity standpoint.  (I wrote the ServerPac part
of the design for Internet
delivery.)

As I hope everyone knows, we are shortly disallowing FTP connections at our
servers. The use of FTPS or HTTPS will be required to download z/OS platform
products and PTFs.  Secure delivery using HTTPS or FTPS uses different
algorithms for securing the link, and happens to pass through a package that
has a SHA-1 hash of its content.

So...with all that in mind...what is the actual requirement here?  Does
anyone think the probability of an undetected data integrity exposure is too
high because we're using SHA-1?  Are auditors reflexively telling you that
any use of SHA-1 for anything at all is not acceptable whether or not it's
security related?  Something else?

-- 
John Eells
IBM Poughkeepsie
[email protected]

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