I opened an SR. Problem is not so much whether HASPINDX is needed, but that the 
sudden need for it was unexpected and inexplicable. I spent a lot of time on 
this from Friday until this morning. A message would have saved KGs of grief. 

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-----Original Message-----
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf 
Of Mike Schwab
Sent: Monday, April 11, 2016 1:29 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: (External):Re: SDSF Mystery

http://www-01.ibm.com/support/docview.wss?uid=isg1PM24416
For z/OS 1.11 and up, suggests leaving HASPINDX in case z/OS can't resolve the 
log.

https://www.ibm.com/support/knowledgecenter/SSLTBW_2.1.0/com.ibm.zos.v2r1.isfa500/haspall.htm
Sample job ISFISALC contains an allocation for the ISF.HASPINDX data set.
Blocksize 4096 and CYL,5 should satisfy almost all systems.

On Mon, Apr 11, 2016 at 1:01 PM, Mark Zelden <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Mon, 11 Apr 2016 16:24:12 +0000, Jesse 1 Robinson 
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>That's it! We recover only one member of a two member sysplex. 
>>Normally we use operlog,  but the logstream did not get created on 
>>this IPL, so SDSF has to use syslog. I can now create  the problem at 
>>will with 'SYSID missing-sys'. SYSID 'recovered-sys' goes right into syslog 
>>with no problem.
>>
>>Do I sniff an APAR here? Or does all this go away in z/OS 2.2?
>
> Sounds like an APAR to me.  I don't recall any caveats documented when 
> the requirement for HASPINDX went away in z/OS 1.11.  Seems to me that the 
> code is just going down a
> path that wasn't accounted for when the requirement was removed.    You 
> should just get the
> "NO xxxx SYSLOG FOUND" message for the inactive member without SDSF 
> trying to allocate HASPINDX IMO, although I wouldn't be shocked if you 
> were told WAD if you open an SR since SDSF has no way of knowing the level of 
> an inactive member.
>
> The FM does say "it can be deleted":
>
>
> SYSLOG
>
> Beginning with z/OS V1R11, SDSF uses a JES logical log to provide the 
> SYSLOG panel for JES2 and JES3 environments. SDSF does not use the HASPINDX 
> data set.
>
> For lower level systems, SDSF uses the HASPINDX data set for the SYSLOG panel.
> Even with z/OS V1R11 and higher systems, it is possible to force the 
> use of HASPINDX, with the PROPERTY statement in ISFPARMS. However, you 
> should be aware that it is IBM's intention to eventually remove the 
> HASPINDX-based SYSLOG when all systems support the logical log.
>
> You can specify the system being processed with the SYSID command.
>
>
> Logical Log
>
> The logical log removes constraints on the number of jobs and data 
> sets that can be indexed, and should result in better performance than 
> use of the HASPINDX data set. If you have only z/OS V1R11 or higher 
> systems in the MAS, you can delete any HASPINDX data sets.
>
> A SAF resource controls access to the JES logical log. The resource is 
> nodeid.+MASTER+.SYSLOG.SYSTEM.sysname in the JESSPOOL class. READ 
> access is required. This resource is in addition to the 
> ISFCMD.ODSP.SYSLOG resource in the SDSF class that was already used.
>
>
> Best Regards,
>
> Mark
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Mike A Schwab, Springfield IL USA
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