For the record, the in-storage database was not huge, but this was the late 
1970s, so all resources were dearer in those days. The RYO database was 
ingenious but primitive. It was based believe it or not on a set of PO data 
sets accessed via BDAM (!). The decision to go all memory came late in the 
development process, so there was little consideration in the design for 
efficient use of virtual storage.

My best chargeback example comes from the late great Security Pacific Bank, 
where we went to greaaaaaaat lengths to send out bills for system use. (I 
mentioned in an earlier post the elaborate scheme of account numbers, which 
were used as well in TSO by developers--hence the use of UADS for multiple 
account numbers per user.) The biggest problem with this chargeback mechanism 
was its enormous drain on resources. Collecting and processing barrelsful of 
SMF data turned out be one of the biggest applications in the shop--which was 
all overhead that had to be amortized across the business units. I can't 
believe that it was worth the trouble and cost.

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J.O.Skip Robinson
Southern California Edison Company
Electric Dragon Team Paddler 
SHARE MVS Program Co-Manager
323-715-0595 Mobile
626-302-7535 Office
[email protected]


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Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2016 9:09 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: (External):Re: Does everybody use chargeback?

Interestingly, I know of at least 1 customer for whom sticking the whole of 
their main DB2 table in memory ISN'T an option - even with the biggest
(10TB) z13. I'm jolly sure they're not alone.

And I suspect this will persist for a VERY long time.

Absolutely not against Data In Memory. Far from it, by the way.

Cheers, Martin

Martin Packer,
zChampion, Principal Systems Investigator, Worldwide Cloud & Systems 
Performance, IBM

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From:   Ed Jaffe <[email protected]>
To:     [email protected]
Date:   09/03/2016 16:12
Subject:        Re: Does everybody use chargeback?
Sent by:        IBM Mainframe Discussion List <[email protected]>



On 3/8/2016 9:59 PM, Jesse 1 Robinson wrote:
> -- A data base application was redesigned at the last minute to read 
> the
entire data base into memory at startup. The business unit noticed that they 
were charged for I/O but not for memory use. It was cheaper to occupy virtual 
storage than to perform reads. So much for common sense.

They were obviously ahead of their time! These days, memory-mapped files are 
highly encouraged as one way to utilize that "free" memory everyone is getting 
on their z13!

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Edward E Jaffe
Phoenix Software International, Inc
831 Parkview Drive North
El Segundo, CA 90245
http://www.phoenixsoftware.com/

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