And - I don’t mean to imply at all that most companies are willfully abusing 
that fact, just simply that most software is a black box.

> On Oct 17, 2015, at 11:08 AM, Clark Morris <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> On Sat, 17 Oct 2015 06:16:47 -0700 (PDT), in bit.listserv.ibm-main you
> wrote:
> 
>> The fact that IBM continues to issue integrity PTFs shows that their code is 
>> not perfect when it comes to integrity and therefore security.  Nobody's is. 
>>  So, it is possible, by a review of the code, that the Chinese review team 
>> can identify an integrity issue and save that for a later attack on an IBM 
>> customer.  This is a big risk.
> 
> Actually allowing any country to review code is to open an exposure.
> On the other hand all users have at least some need to verify that
> code is not exposing them.  For those users with high security needs
> and a large enough budget, having all software in house maybe using
> open source software as a starting base can make sense.  I believed
> back in the 1970s and 80s that one of the best places to put a spy was
> in the IBM software creation and distribution system.  These comments
> apply to all countries.  It would be interesting to find out which
> countries and entities are reviewing source code from the various
> vendors. I believe that Snowden supporters are naive if they believe
> that other major and not so major countries are not engaged in much
> the same activities as those he accused the United States NSA and
> other agencies of committing. If IBM is allowing the Chinese
> government to review the code, I will guarantee that other governments
> are also reviewing the code.  In addition we know that at least some
> ISV's have access to at least some of the code under non-disclosure
> agreements.  I leave to you who are citizens of various countries to
> determine how concerned you should be.
> 
> Clark Morris
>> 
>> Barry Schrager
>> Creator of ACF2
>> Member: Mainframe Hall of Fame
>> www.Enterprisesystemsmedia.com/mainframe-hall-of-fame
> 
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