On Wed, 7 Oct 2015 08:57:49 +0200, Stevet  wrote:

>While we are whining... Does a iPhone have any way to do cntl+z like Linux or 
>Winderz?
> 
I don't do Windows.  On Linux, as on z/OS UNIX, I use cntl+z to interrupt a 
foreground
process so I can "bg" it.  And the lack of such multiprocessing is lamented 
alike in
iOS and TSO.  It's a relic of resource limitation the early days of both 
systems.

>And Gil, how would you get QSAM to correctly do a STOW at CLOSE if you do not 
>set DSORG to PO?  
> 
Hadn't thought of that.  Is the information nowhere else avaiable?

>Now the change you propose, how do we make it transparent to existing code 
>running in a bank, mfg co., etc. ?
>
Which change that I "propose"?  How would allowing V(iew) to select a directory
in UDLIST impact "existing code running in a bank, mfg co., etc. ?"

>POSIX came LONG after MVS. 
>
The interval OS/360 to UNIX is surprisingly short, yet the latter was able to
learn from and avoid many of the design shortcomings of the former that
persist in z/OS.


>> On Oct 7, 2015, at 12:28 AM, Paul Gilmartin wrote:
>> 
>>> Lots of variations. What about dataset accessed as a QSAM file but actually 
>>> PDS/PDSE member? FWIW the distinction goes away for USS -- every file is a 
>>> "member" of a directory.
>> Sometimes that directory and membership are fictitious, as for /dev/fd/0.
>> 
>> And ISPF is woefully ignorant of the similarity.  For example, if in DDLIST I
>> select a PDS with V(iew), DSLIST opens a member list with View as the
>> point-and-shoot selection default.
>> 
>> If in UDLIST I select a UNIX directory with V(iew), I get a failure, "Invalid
>> file type".  Why doesn't UDLIST do as DSLIST does and show a list of
>> members in that directory?
>> 
>> As for the sequential allocation of a PDS member you mention, I was dismayed
>> to learn that OPEN sets DCBDSORG to PO, not PS.
>> 
>> -- gil
>> 
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