Thanks, Bernd.

We do have PDSESHARING = EXTENDED set (during IPL already).

Regarding Thomas Reed's presentation on using PDSEs in a SYSPLEX: I do not see 
any improper PDSE sharing going on in our installation, in particular *not* the 
scenario shown on slide number 9.

Best Regards

Karl

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Subject: Re: Intermittent, not consistently reproducible problems with PDSEs on 
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I also found this; seems very good to me:

https://share.confex.com/share/120/webprogram/Handout/Session12981/SHARE%20PDSE%20Best%20Practices.pdf

Kind regards

Bernd


Am 20.03.2015 um 19:52 schrieb Bernd Oppolzer:
> what is this? Has this already been covered by the preceeding 
> discussions?
>
> http://www-01.ibm.com/support/knowledgecenter/SSLTBW_1.12.0/com.ibm.zo
> s.r12.idad400/pdsesh.htm%23pdsesh
>
>
> "Normal or Extended PDSE Sharing"
>
> Kind regards
>
> Bernd
>
>
> Am 20.03.2015 um 17:45 schrieb Henn, Karl:
>> Yes, the problem *only* occurs ...
>>
>> ... with z/OS V2R1,
>> ... with PDSEs,
>> ... in case at least one empty member exists in the source PDSE of 
>> the copy operation (IEBCOPY), irrespective of how the empty member 
>> was created.
>>
>> We do have SMSPDSE and SMSPDSE1 set up and running.
>>
>> "guaranteed synchronous write" was not the culprit.
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
>> Karl
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[email protected]] 
>> On Behalf Of Bernd Oppolzer
>> Sent: Friday, March 20, 2015 5:10 PM
>> To: [email protected]
>> Subject: Re: Intermittent, not consistently reproducible problems 
>> with PDSEs on z/OS V2R1 (incl. infrequent S0F4-20 RSN 1C0752EE 
>> ABENDs)
>>
>> Am 20.03.2015 um 17:02 schrieb Henn, Karl:
>>>> Have you tried with - directly after each IEBGENER step - do an 
>>>> IEBGENER from the member to SYSOUT ?
>>> Yes. Makes no difference. Same problem
>>>
>>>> Have you tried with only non-empty members?
>>> Yes. No empty members - no problem.
>>>
>>>> Have tried with DD * instead of DD DATA ?
>>> Yes. Makes no difference. Same problem.
>>>
>>>> Have you tried with something other than NULLFILE for empty members?
>>>> (E g an IEBCOPY from a third dataset with empty members.)
>>> Yes. Makes no difference. Same problem.
>> that is:
>>
>> the problem is not limited to IEBGENER ...
>> if you build the empty member with other tools, the problem remains?
>>
>> So this is a PDSE problem ... from your posts I'm almost sure that 
>> you don't have this problem with normal PDSs.
>>
>> PDSEs are supported by a special address space, AFAIK. Is there a 
>> possibility to have site-specific exits installed in the PDSE 
>> supporting subsystem; do you have any?
>>
>>> Thanks.
>>>
>>> Karl
>>>
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