That’s exactly my experience. The problem occurs with z/OS V2R1 *only*.

Thanks.

Karl

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From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf 
Of Thomas Berg
Sent: Friday, March 20, 2015 2:44 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Intermittent, not consistently reproducible problems with PDSEs on 
z/OS V2R1 (incl. infrequent S0F4-20 RSN 1C0752EE ABENDs)

I submitted the JCL on z/OS 1.13 with expected result (that is: ZZZZ member is 
NOT empty).



Best Regards,
Thomas Berg
___________________________________________________________________
Thomas Berg   Specialist   zOS/RQM/IT Delivery   Swedbank AB (Publ)


> -----Original Message-----
> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[email protected]]
> On Behalf Of Karl Henn
> Sent: Friday, March 20, 2015 2:03 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Intermittent, not consistently reproducible problems with PDSEs on 
> z/OS V2R1 (incl.
> infrequent S0F4-20 RSN 1C0752EE ABENDs)
>
> Hello,
>
> The description of the following "problem" (if you prefer to call it
> such) sounds a little unusual, and the sample JCL looks - and is! -
> trivial. I still kindly ask the world to please read it, and maybe try it 
> out. My primary goal is to make sure that I'm not simply just out of my mind.
>
> Ever since we're running z/OS V2R1, complaints about alleged problems
> with PDSEs were forwarded to me, sporadically. The error descriptions
> were fairly fuzzy, ranging from intermittent S0F4-20 RSN 1C0752EE
> ABENDs, problems with empty members, as well as incomplete copies of
> PDSEs with IEBCOPY CC 00. Since none of the problems were really consistently 
> reproducible, I kind of just brushed away the issue for a while.
>
> The S0F4 ABENDs I could not ignore, though. The complaints didn’t
> stop, either. So, in order to narrow down a possible problem, I started 
> experimenting - yielding a surprising result.
>
> Please take a look at the following JCL. Don’t laugh, but as simple as
> it may look, it
> *sometimes* does not work.
>
>
> //*------------------------------------------------------------------*
> //DELETE   EXEC PGM=IDCAMS,COND=(0,NE)
> //SYSPRINT DD SYSOUT=*
> //SYSIN    DD DATA
>  DELETE <hlq>.TEST.PDSE#A1         NVSAM SCRATCH
>  DELETE <hlq>.TEST.PDSE#A2         NVSAM SCRATCH
>  SET MAXCC=00
> /*
> //*------------------------------------------------------------------*
> //ALLOC    EXEC PGM=IEFBR14,COND=(0,NE)
> //SYSPRINT DD SYSOUT=*
> //PDSE#A1  DD DISP=(NEW,CATLG),DSN=<hlq>.TEST.PDSE#A1,
> //            RECFM=FB,LRECL=80,SPACE=(CYL,(1,1,1)),UNIT=SYSALLDA,
> //            DSNTYPE=LIBRARY
> //PDSE#A2  DD DISP=(NEW,CATLG),DSN=<hlq>.TEST.PDSE#A2,
> //            RECFM=FB,LRECL=80,SPACE=(CYL,(1,1,1)),UNIT=SYSALLDA,
> //            DSNTYPE=LIBRARY
> //*------------------------------------------------------------------*
> //CRE#A1D  EXEC PGM=IEBGENER,COND=(0,NE) //SYSPRINT DD SYSOUT=*
> //SYSIN    DD DUMMY
> //SYSUT2   DD DISP=SHR,DSN=<hlq>.TEST.PDSE#A1(DUMMY)
> //SYSUT1   DD DSN=NULLFILE,RECFM=FB,LRECL=80,DSORG=PO
> //*------------------------------------------------------------------*
> //CRE#A1Z  EXEC PGM=IEBGENER,COND=(0,NE) //SYSPRINT DD SYSOUT=*
> //SYSIN    DD DUMMY
> //SYSUT2   DD DISP=SHR,DSN=<hlq>.TEST.PDSE#A1(ZZZZ)
> //SYSUT1   DD DATA
> ###ZZZZ###
> /*
> //*------------------------------------------------------------------*
> //COPY#A1  EXEC PGM=IEBCOPY,COND=(0,NE) //SYSPRINT DD SYSOUT=*
> //SYSUT1   DD DISP=SHR,DSN=<hlq>.TEST.PDSE#A1
> //SYSUT2   DD DISP=SHR,DSN=<hlq>.TEST.PDSE#A2
> //SYSIN    DD DUMMY
> //*------------------------------------------------------------------*
> //
>
> All steps usually end with CC 00. So far, so good. Everything as expected.
>
> However, if you BROWSE member ZZZZ in the two data sets involved, the
> result is surprising, to say the least.
>
> BROWSE    SYSADM.TEST.PDSE#A1(ZZZZ)
> Command ===>
> ********************************
> --------------------------------
> ###ZZZZ###
> 777EEEE7774444444444444444444444
> BBB9999BBB0000000000000000000000
> --------------------------------
>
>
> BROWSE    SYSADM.TEST.PDSE#A2(ZZZZ)
> Command ===>
> ********************************
> --------------------------------
>
> 44444444444444444444444444444444
> 00000000000000000000000000000000
> --------------------------------
>
> Even though IEBCOPY (in step COPY#A1) ended with CC 00, and target member 
> ZZZZ is *empty*.
> Even more intriguing: This *only* happens if an empty member (DUMMY in
> my example) already exists in the source PDSE, otherwise everything is fine 
> and good.
>
> In my view, there are three possibilities.
>
> (1) I'm crazy.
>
> (2) In my 28 year as a Mainframe Systems Programmer, I somehow managed
> to miss a crucial piece of information.
>
> (3) There is a bad bug somewhere.
>
> Once I can rule out No. 1 and No. 2, I might turn to IBM.
>
> Thanks a lot in advance, everybody!
>
> Best Regards
>
> Karl
>
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