of course we did the same thing (tons of paper) some 25 years ago.

Am 27.11.2014 10:43, schrieb Bernd Oppolzer:
Only ca. 150 pages on paper (excerpts from CEEDUMP and SYSUDUMP,
and compile listings, of course), so that the students can write notes on it,
the rest of the dumps is in the machine, in PDF format (landscape shape).
The students read them on the screen, works pretty well,
or they go to SYSVIEW directly, or SDSF, which is what is done
in reality.

When I prepare a class for a certain customer (all sites are different),
I go to the site and run certain test programs there, look at the dumps
created and prepare the class for that customer.

BTW: regardless of the language used.

and: I'm a member of the Green party in Germany ...

Kind regards

Bernd


Am 26.11.2014 03:54, schrieb Shane Ginnane:
On Wed, 26 Nov 2014 01:33:00 +0100, Bernd Oppolzer wrote:

I do classes on dump diagnose, BTW,
Many years ago I did a dump class - as an adjunct to the MVS Internals class Amdahl used to offer. Hand-outs for the class included multiple fanfold listings - each several inches thick. which we had to get home in addition to the voluminous class notes. To save on freight I got the local office to ship them interstate for me.
Hopefully Bernd is more ecologically sensitive ....  ;-)

Shane ...

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