I was told that System Programming would be reduced to PARMLIB updates. Circa 1981. And......
- -teD - Original Message From: Richards, Robert B. Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2014 13:01 To: [email protected] Reply To: IBM Mainframe Discussion List Subject: Re: z/OSMF audit (was Re: WLM in batch?) I feel fine. I was told the same thing 35 years ago. -----Original Message----- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Ed Gould Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2014 12:52 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: z/OSMF audit (was Re: WLM in batch?) Hi: I have said this before. At a IBM class (here in Chicago) The instructor told us (SERVPAC CLASS) that the goal of IBM was to eliminate the systems programmer. Now hows does that make everyone on the list feel? Ed On Nov 25, 2014, at 12:36 AM, Elardus Engelbrecht wrote: > Disclaimer: I (or we) don't have z/OSMF and z/OS v2.1, maybe next > year, when we are deemed not be naughty SysOps... ;-) > > Cheryl Walker wrote: > >> But the reason to go to z/OSMF is not because people want cheap >> labor, but because it's simply better (at least in 2.1). > > John McKown is talking about his problem of his company wanting cheap > and ultra cheap labor. Each to its own. > > >> If I were a sysprog again, I would definitely prefer z/OSMF to do my >> standard tasks. I could get my work done more quickly, and with a >> better audit trail of who did what. The history function of z/ OSMF >> is one of its strengths. > > Where is that audit trail (besides history function) being kept? > Just curious. > > >> Just because the tool is easier doesn't mean that you don't need >> experts. You still need to understand service classes, performance >> indicators, and much more. > > Agreed. And experience too. > >> I personally think that z/OSMF reduces the manual effort to let you >> concentrate on more important matters. > > If you say so. Thanks. > > Groete / Greetings > Elardus Engelbrecht > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send > email to [email protected] with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [email protected] with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [email protected] with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [email protected] with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
