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> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[email protected]]
> On Behalf Of Ed Gould
> Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2014 4:19 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: DFHSM QUESTION - EXPIRATION OF DSN
> 
> On Oct 29, 2014, at 6:14 PM, Gibney, Dave wrote:
> 
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-
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> >> On Behalf Of Ed Gould
> >> Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2014 4:04 PM
> >> To: [email protected]
> >> Subject: Re: DFHSM QUESTION - EXPIRATION OF DSN
> >>
> >> On Oct 29, 2014, at 4:39 PM, R.S. wrote:
> >>
> >>> W dniu 2014-10-29 o 18:47, Gibney, Dave pisze:
> >>>> HSM will happily back-up empty datasets. INVALID datasets are
> >>>> another matter. But, it is an easy matter to define a DEFAULT
> >>>> DATACLAS with DSORG=PS and never have another invalid dataset.
> >>>>
> >>> True.
> >>> However I would prefer to have some feature to avoid creation of
> >>> invalid datasets.
> >>> I saw a lot of invalid datasets and none of them was really need by
> >>> the creator.
> >>>
> >>
> >> R.S.
> >>   Define invalid datasets, please.
> >
> > From HSM's perspective, they lack a DSORG. Most frequently created by
> > JCL where the program doesn't actually OPEN the output file for some
> > reason.
> > On non-SMS disk, they can also lack an EOF mark with older z/OS (or
> > perhaps OS390)
> >
> 
>   From the comment it could have been a dataset that didn't have a local
> standard name.
> I had a standard (DASD) that if it didn't have a valid dsorg it was deleted. I
> regularly went through and deleted them.

25 years ago or more, so did I. With SMS, HSM and DSROG via a DEFAULT DATACLAS, 
I don't have to do this manual deletion of obvious errors.

> 
> Ed
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